I don’t think the Fediverse will become mainstream. But I’m actually happy about that. And so should you.

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      I want the place to be just big enough that the real niche communities (mostly gaming) start blooming. After that, though, I’m good.

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      It’s quite telling that by having a more ‘complicated’ sign up process and ‘how-things-work’ around here is able to keep idiots off the Fediverse (for now)

      And I appreciate this, which means as a potential user I need to do my own background research, look around at different sources of information, lurk for a bit, before committing to a platform. And this in and of itself, for me at least, gives me a better appreciation of the ‘verse’ and how I can contribute to it.

      From the article “The Fediverse is not that. It’s kind of… different. I mean, the very first thing you get asked when signing up for a Fediverse platform is “Which Instance?”. The signup process in the Fediverse is more complicated than people are used to.”

      A counter example to this ‘barrier of entry’ would be threads. Super easy to join, making it almost ‘stupid’ not to join if you’re already on IG and using Twitter, without understanding what it offers besides simply being an alternative to threads (this is where I was at, could not outweigh the cons vs twitter, thus did not join)

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      I like it too honestly. It reminds me of stories about how Usenet used to be before the Eternal September.

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      I have not found that too be true. In fact I am getting more negative replies here than Reddit for similar comments. Like I just had one linking me to the whataboutism definition, but my comment they were replying too was the opposite. Unsure if a dumb bot triggered on a keyword or a person who didn’t understand the definition they sent. Been lots of little micro aggressions here. Wonder if the crowd or AI a grouping is using to sour the experience.

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        Go back to Reddit. I read through your post and you are a snowflake. I believe you’re looking for an echo chamber, which hopefully will not be found here.

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          I sadly have to agree… I see that this post has a 2:1 up/down ratio. I was hoping that people with different opinions would speak up more because I would love to hear them

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            Edit: congrats on publishing your blog! It’s cool that your put yourself out there. Hope you have a good night.

            (My comment wasn’t nice, didn’t realize op wrote it and now feel embarrassed)

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              As you may have seen, that was my first blog post. It would be nice if you actually had something constructive to say. Care to elaborate on why you don’t agree?

              (Edit: Spelling)

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                  You didn’t have to do that. If you feel embarrassed saying something rude, just don’t but if you disagree with me, please do tell. I love hearing different perspectives, it makes you grow as a person.

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          I mean all it takes is to read this comment from you and then your post history to realize who you are. Name calling is just an emotional reaction and not discourse.

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          Lemmy is a massive left-wing echochamber though. It’s honestly a problem.

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              I’m about as far left as they come, but yeah it’s definitely a fairly strong left wing echo chamber, and thay absolutely can very quickly become a problem.

              I’m not even talking about “silencing the right” or whatever those chucklefucks want to complain about. We’re not there yet (nor are we particularly close at the moment), but I’ve seen plenty of communities turn into a hivemind because they’re not careful about that sort of stuff.

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                Your claim to be leftist does not strengthen your opinions strength. I want an echo chamber of users with empathy. That by definition excludes all on the right. Why the fuck should I care about the opinion of a sociopath.

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                60% of the US has empathy and 40% does not. I don’t give a shit about the opinion of those without because I already know what it is. Take your left/right paradigm bullshit away and talk about personality traits. I want an echo chamber of those with empathy. If you define that as “leftist” then yes.

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        I really think the typical Lemmy user falls into a lot of the same trappings as the typical Reddit user. It’s especially obvious on political or otherwise emotionally charged topics. In the end it doesn’t really matter if you are downvoted or not, it’s just an imaginary number.

        But it’s definitely organic, not trolls or bots; just an inevitability of online spaces

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    I agree with much of the article but… Dude, go on holiday. Billionaires and corporations make up the vast majority of emissions that are driving climate change. See the world before the rich end up destroying what’s left of it. You’re allowed to enjoy yourself.

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    A small reminder that clickbaity titles like this work against the author’s view for all the people who read just the title and scroll further. (And they’re not to blame. You can’t read everything)

    TL;DR of the article:

    Fall of Twitter and Reddit helped the Fediverse grow. Most users don’t know or care how Federation works and don’t realise the necessity of donations. Fediverse either remains niche or becomes mainstream, the future is not set in stone.

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      That is a fair point, I’ll keep that in mind going forward, thank you

      Edit: I do want to add that skimming the title and voting based off of that is not how it should work. I would at least scroll to the conclusion, even though this article admittedly doesn’t really have one. Going forward I will make a clearly marked conclusion and summarize my pov better in the title to avoid confusion.

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        Regarding voting, of course, it should be done after familiarizing oneself with the post to some degree greater than the title.

        I meant changing people’s minds. While just the title won’t convince people to think a certain way, it will remain in their minds as one of many opinions on the topic they encountered. And it’s a shame if that opinion is the opposite of what the author has in mind.

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    Honestly, a pretty valid take, all things considered. I can see why many people would find the headline outrageous, but reading through the article, I think it’s a message that a lot of people do need to hear. And I think everyone should read what OP is conveying before jumping to conclusions.

    I’ve seen people on Lemmy with mixed opinions on how Lemmy and the Fediverse should be treated. Some want to expand Lemmy and siphon off as many users from Reddit, while others want to keep the gates tight. Some want Lemmy to remain a small, niche community for enthusiasts, while others want the Fediverse to be a new paradigm for the maintstream internet.

    I agree, that Fediverse platforms built up with donations and little to no profit incentive will likely remain dwarfed compared to the tech giants that can afford to give the public the high-end, high-production social media they ultimately prefer. As OP said, that’s okay. The fediverse can remain a viable alternative, even if it doesn’t become the new #1.

    I think this is a message people should hear if they think Lemmy has the potential to outright eclipse Reddit at the moment, or think the Fediverse will take over the entirety of the internet and give the top tech companies a run for their money in doing so.

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    There’s a sweet spot, right? Popular enough to be viable; not so popular that the quality decreases.

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    It doesn’t need to be. It just needs to be better than Reddit, which it is. That’s enough to make me happy.

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      Lots of people actually use Lemmy, Kbin and similar platforms as alternatives to Reddit and other traditional social media. It’s great that you’re open to donating/hosting, that’s exactly the kind of person we need imo. I simply pointed out that too many people that are opposed to donating/hosting or simply don’t know the necessity of it could become problematic. Basically encouraging people to help make the Fediverse even greater. I also stated that it will probably be fine, just as Mastodon is doing fine.

      I checked out your cooking content and it’s actually quite interesting! Keep up the good content :)

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    But if i want my idiots? That’s how i get my rareinsults screenshots to post and gain karma!