At first misread as cloaca. Barely even gave me pause in this thread.

Oh I didn’t think I implied that at all. Certainly didn’t mean to. I was just commenting that making cultural artifacts that can be revised into delta-based distributions instead of flat is useful for many reasons. But it’s no benefit to the corps and most users don’t care so of course it won’t happen.

It would be nice if that stuff worked more like git where yeah maybe the release version gets changed but you can always work back through the history to see earlier versions.

Not git specifically but just deltas from one version to the next instead of replacing the whole thing with a flattened text.

Java version seems superior to bedrock in just about every way. But MS bought it to monetize it and here we are. I run a local server to play with my kids sometimes and it works great.

Cool. Sorry if that all seemed like a lecture. A friend and I have been working for years on a dungeon master chatbot that can run games on discord for people/groups without a GM.

It works about exactly as well as you think: pretty decent, inconsistent, and with a frequent need to tweak prompts to permit bad guys to be bad guys, have swords fights, etc.

I really want to run an uncensored model or at least one better trained on adventure stories and not at all concerned by a party of bloodthirsty heroes facing down bad guys who gleefully commit actual crimes. However to my consternation, OAI has the best response quality and understanding of game world lore.

So I’m hopeful the state of the art continues to expand so that we have more options. It’s pretty damn fun and we run small Chatbots that simulate real and fictional people (Harlan Ellison has some things to say about Paramount that would make a sailor blush).

It’s just a good bit of fun and something that keeps us all entertained. A total waste of money and silicon, but a lot of human pastimes are the same. And none is that even touches actual niche tools that actually are kinda decent (code completion isn’t replacing coders, but it’s a significant boost in some cases.)

It seems to me the only real grift is them convincing folks that replacing actual workers with AI is just around the corner (and how fucking awful would that be, anyway?) I think money invested in OAI might be reasonable but money invested in any company developing products based on LLMs is the real loser.

But I respect your opinion, and appreciate the response.

Flat out have never played them. It’s like this: if a game doles stuff out to give you a chance to learn new systems or tactics that doesn’t bother me. That’s normally a single player thing.

In multiplayer I don’t like unlocks. And I’ve always avoided games that seemed like that’s what they did. I was really upset about the Star Wars BF game a few years ago. So wanted to play that but I’m not going to put several dozens of hours into a game in order to just play what I want to play.

I get where you are coming from. From what I see there are a lot of folks genuinely excited about AI and genuinely think it is the future.

I also agree with you that it’s not for mass market. It’s a tool. I can be used by anyone. It can be helpful in a limited capacity for damn near anyone. But like a tablesaw, not everyone needs one and if you try to use it without understanding the tool, it’s liable to do more harm than good.

I’m actually really excited for LLMs because I was into them and using them way before ChatGPT, and now that everyone is excited there is all of this interest and investment and the costs for doing what I enjoy are socialized over a large number of people. It’s like if the whole world decided everyone needs a replica lightsaber. Instead of paying $600 for one, I could pick one up for $120 due to economy of scale.

I still think it’s a terrible business model. Everyone is trying to integrate it into mass market products, but it is uncontrollable. Your automated CSR bot might just tell your biggest client to go fuck himself. The chance is low, but it is never zero. That’s not a product.

When 25 phones out of a production run of hundreds of thousands catch fire, they recall the whole fucking lot. Anyone adopting LLMs on a large scale is begging to be sued into oblivion.

I would not invest in OAI. I might invest in a smaller, leaner competitor. I wouldn’t invest in an AI-based company. You’re right that it’s a sucker’s game, I’m just not sure it’s grift. Looks to me like rich idiots who don’t really understand it (well, and maybe grifters who don’t want them to).

That all being said, it’s a fun, cool technology. It has its niche uses. And who knows, we might just accidentally invent something really cool out of it. It has replaced Google for me ~80% of the time. Because Google is also full of shit, but it takes a lot longer to sift through. I’m not staking my life or livelihood on anything ChatGPT says, but if you know how to use it, and if you are skeptical about the results, it’s pretty amazing. IMO

I suppose I was commenting on the question, not trying to answer it. I’m out of the loop, so I can’t answer it. Checked some articles and it looks like a bunch of neo-nazis switched to it.

They are also using Google, Windows, Apple, etc. so I’m not sure the question actually pertains, but I guess that’s not my concern.

I’m certain that any worthwhile encrypted communication will be used by evil people to do evil.

I could write a fucking book here and I had to delete about a chapter just to get to the point here so this would be readable.

The current Russian and US gov’ts are forces for evil in the world. If they say jump, I’m looking for a shovel.

You’re not wrong that corporations are also a real problem—they are the surveillance arm of world governments. That doesn’t really intersect with what I was trying to say.

Until recently, I had the luxury of knowing my government doesn’t give a shit if I have queer kids. But now they do, at the same time that there is a push against encrypted communication. And I’m really paying attention to the signals (hah!) they are sending, because I’m mentally preparing for shit to turn really dark, really fast, and I don’t want to be caught with my pants down.

Maybe you’re not conscious of it but there is an element of:

<identifies problem> -> <adds to the problem>

It also feels like you are passive-aggressively telling everyone to just stop bitching about things you think they have no right to bitch about. You’re gate-keeping complaining, basically.

“grocery prices” … fuck, my friend, not long ago I used to be able to feed my family on $600/mo and now I’m hovering around $1k. That’s a car payment. I get it, my son, who is 26 and lives by himself, can feed himself for $100/week because he can choose the stuff that is important to him and if he chooses to eat beans and rice for a week to save money he can. Meanwhile there are 4 of us living in this home, and my autistic daughter has food issues, which means I can’t just say, “Oh the good spaghetti sauce has gone up to $8 per jar, time to buy Prego which tastes like ass but sauces your pasta.”

You can’t know the pain points in other peoples’ lives. I shouldn’t have to go around explaining to everyone about my autistic daughter to justify why I might complain about grocery prices, you know?

Before you get defensive about it, as is some folks’ ways, please understand I know you probably aren’t aware you are doing it. You’re young and you have experienced just a small slice of life. Hell, youth be damned, some folks go through their whole lives that way.

The way to deal with it isn’t to complain about it. It isn’t to judge it. It’s just to accept it, don’t engage, and move on. Maybe redirect the conversation if that’s appropriate. You aren’t asking a stupid question, you are asking a judgmental question, and you should look inward and try to stop that.

Good luck, mate. Hope this helps in some way.

I had no idea this was a thing. I’m 100% going to look into this!

Figure they’ve penetrated telegram or someone and are trying to drive people to use compromised messaging? Idk but when Russia and Musk both target Signal that makes me think I should be using it. (But maybe that’s the play lol.)

Blocking it from my computer would probably help, too. I think the internet is the problem. Specifically social media.

Everyone can relate to complaining. Don’t know what to talk about with a stranger or family member? Bitch about work. The train. That driver that cut you off. Everyone relates and can gripe about their own stuff and baby, you got a stew conversation going.

IMO

Probably going to be inflated through Trump’s sovereign wealth fund if he gets it. Another way to steal our money.

That sounds about right. I don’t think I’ve picked it up in close to ten years. Not much before that since hats. But there was a time I lived on that game.

ETA: I didn’t realize it was such a brief span of time. 2007-2009, but I played almost every day, so I guess it felt like forever. I picked it back up every now and again with longer times between and briefer stints playing each time.

Still have a soft spot for the game, I just don’t like lootbox gear. I’d rather look at team comps and pick a class having a good idea what I’m in for based on the map and the mix of classes on both sides. Having gear that makes e.g. snipers better vs. scouts screws with that.

I don’t remember all the exact details, but I go back to my original point: I prefer to play when everyone is on the same ground other than skill and experience.

I haven’t been happy about TF2 since they added hats and bullshit. I don’t want progress or lootbox bullshit. I just want to fire up the game and be on even footing with everybody.

That said, good for the folks who enjoy that stuff. It’s always been a pretty fun game. Played it off and on for probably close to a decade. Maybe I’ll fire it up again and wander around trying to figure out what they’ve done with all the maps I actually know.

Grok has alternative facts.

I don’t think DVs matter all that much. Actual interaction (comments) is much more rewarding. I think DV are more about knowing reach—who has read a comment or post to interact with it. If you get no votes and no comments you might wonder if it’s worth the effort if no one is seeing them.

Someone else suggested not showing DV separately, but I suggest the opposite. 10 UV and 8 DV look like only 2 UV but you actually had ten people like your post. So mine are split and I only really pay attention to UV. Particularly on the occasions when I know I’m saying something unpopular and I’m going to get DV, those UV are the folks who silently agree but maybe didn’t want to take the heat for saying a thing.

Beyond that, if folks are responding to you with comments, even insightful disagreements, IMO that’s a much more rewarding interaction.

And lastly, maybe look at your posting habits. If this is a big problem for you, it might be worth examining if there’s something you ought to do differently.