SWE saw the same arc and now were at Andy Yen saying that a humans job isn’t to use LLMs to write good code. It’s to help LLMs so they can write good code.
That’s what’s coming down the pipeline for, quite literally, every single knowledge worker unless something is done.
This, people need to remember that the goal is to complete remove labor power.
The goal is to get to the point where, quite literally, every single job is replaced. The drawings being generated suck now but without organized labor it’s going to be hard to argue when they stop sucking.
Just look at what happened to SWEs
Very cool! I hope there will be a space for those of us that want to enjoy computing as a craft, who knows, maybe I’ll get lucky and a space for innovation without LLMs or at the very least limited LLM will continue to exist.
A guy can dream.
It has a side effect.
Religion is very good at giving people hope. Something secular ideologies have tried and failed at doing. We’re staring down the barrel of a pretty immense amount of suffering for many humans for a very long time. The religious, as they’ve demonstrated historically, will likely weather it better than the nonreligious. Psychologically speaking.
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Alright, so I can wrap my head around this. Your response to being told that no one is “stretching the law” because the law specifically protects this kind of speech is to say “nu uh?”
You’re claiming a religious exemption from the law that enables you to claim a religious exemption?
Yes it is.
Also, even if it wasn’t it wouldn’t matter, legally speaking. The EEOC guarantees protections whether or not an organization has tax exempt status.
The guys a humanist.
I can hear your trilby hat flapping in the wind from all the way over here.
Reasonable compromises must be made. I won’t lie to you, being someone that spent the better part of their career performing manual labor I would find it hard to believe you have spent any extended amount of time working a farm.
The share of people that want to perform, very specifically, back breaking labor is small compared to the number of people that would prefer to do literally anything else. We can make accommodations for that small number bit automating plowing but not science is a reasonable compromise.
OK so it’s like you’re chilling in the cuck chair but every once in a while you make a suggestion to the bull on how to plow your wife.
Honestly that’s even worse. It’s just kind of sad. You might be able to retain some dignity by sitting in the cuck chair looking indignant but this is being an active participant in your own obsolescence.
Sorry, no can do. The analogy is too perfect and it pulls double duty of helping get the dude-bro crowd on board with disliking LLMs.
If you’ve got any ideas for messaging that accomplish both tasks as well as comparing using AI to being a cuck, we’re all ears.
At some point we will need to break Javon’s paradox.
I think at some point in the unregulated dystopian path we are on the only use actual artists and creators will have is to create real content for future LLM training. Companies will pay artists to churn out real media content primarily for LLM consumption
Thanks! I hate it! Dude this shit sucks. What’s funny is its easy to see how LLMs and AI could be a huge boon for humans, just not now. We’re just not at a point where they can be used to empower vice destroy.
Maybe one day, but I’m really not seeing it happening any time soon.
Dog I’m dying for someone to give me a use case. Really I am.
I work in a field that kind of straddles the line between tech and industrial systems. On the tech side of the house people eat this shit up because it can code. On the industrial side its crickets.
I’ll be honest, I think there’s a point of diminishing returns on convenience. Agent swarms can do what for me? Book an airline? Answer an email? The jump from sending letters to writing emails was massive. The jump from sending emails to asking a robot to send an email is miniscule. I have very few problems that can be solved with a computer and, honestly, I think that may be the case for a lot of people.
Unless these things can put out assassinations there utility to me is limited to “searches for things good”.
So the image is not used. It’s done for fun? I suppose that’s fine if they’re just showing it to you for vibes but I don’t see how that would be different from me asking a tiler to do my shower tile-work, telling them what I would like, and them showing me a meme on reddit. Cool I guess? Please return to the tiling task?
Honestly I would prefer they just send over a sample. Why get a pretend image of what it will look like when I could just see a tile for free?
And why would I use AI for the CAD work? I know how to use CAD. I suppose if I was in a situation where someone had a gun to my head and said that I had to render a sink fixture in under 45 seconds I might be motivated to speed up that process but I can’t think of a time in my life where I faced bodily harm if I did not complete a creative task quickly.
EDIT: Nevermind, I can think of a few times I have faced bodily harm based on the speed I could complete arbitrary creative tasks.
But like… Why? I’ve had work done on homes before and did not request a image… What is the purpose of the image? Do the tradesmen use the image to perform their work? If so why not model it in CAD? If not, why use it at all?
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Sorry brother-man. Her field doesn’t touch them.
One took photos during quotation and used AI to show what it’ll look like when they are done
… Why? How would an LLM “show you what it will look like?”
Are they using the LLM as a basis for what they’re going to do? Why would they do that?
My trades friends don’t use AI, one of them doesn’t even know the names of any of the models.
My wife first heard about LLMs this year. She’s never used one, she’s never seen anyone use one, she doesn’t know anyone who has used one. She’s an engineer.
Lemmy leans way too heavily towards tech workers. There is a whole world of people that have literally nothing to do with our field and the trends inside it. They know nothing about it, they’ve no interest in engaging with it, it’s completely useless to them.
My wife’s company recently adopted using Active Directory for managing users.
EDIT: To take it a step further, I work adjacent to OEM manufacturers for industrial control systems. Half of our customers are running windows 98.
I’m rather glad I’ve gotten out of tech.
I expect AI is going to come for every role there is and turn it into being a prompt monkey.
However, I can always turn a wrench!