This whole thing has made me so angry, I’m so upset about this.
Musk doesn’t have the power to to stop Russian ships attacking cargo vessels in the black sea so he shouldn’t be stopping Ukrainians from fighting back - in their own territory.
Musk is partially to blame for the lack of food coming from Ukraine. He’s responsiveness got higher food prices.
This is an absolute act of evil stupidity.
Don’t let individuals amass the wealth of a nation state.
One can only hope that The Site Formerly Known as Twitter will bankrupt him.
What a disingenuous statement. By not agreeing to do it he is complicit in major acts of war, i.e. whatever attacks the Russians do with their fleet. What a tosser.
War is peace.
Starlink was specifically agreed for civilian use only. It’s the Ukraine who tries to breach that agreement, SpaceX simply doesn’t want to be accused of exporting weapons
Saying ‘the Ukraine’ gives away your loyalties, tovarisch.
Yeah, if a much larger country was invading, shelling apartment buildings, mining the fuck out of farmland and murdering thousands of people, I’d probably breach a ToS.
Also, that sounds a bit absurd considering he just got the US DoD to pay for Ukraine’s starlink service.
Also that larger country is firing missiles from ships in the Black Sea, and many of those missiles do kill civilians.
Also using those ships to disrupt grain shipments which is causing issues with the food supply world wide.
Ah, but Elron saved us ALL from nuclear war. A typical grandiose and pretentious statement for him, I suppose.
The crazy thing is that the Air Force, Army, and just about every other branch of the military has contracted or is looking to contract with Space X to get Starlink. He doesn’t have a problem with providing the US with that capability because we’re not in direct conflict, but will deny it to ukraine when it’s in Russia’s favor.
After this I, I would totally re-look those agreements.
Correction. He doesn’t have a problem providing the US with service because the government pays a SHITLOAD for guaranteed access to that. Ukraine cannot afford such expenditures.
I think space X shouldn’t be involved with the war. It is not a military company. I don’t know, just my opinion.
shades of howard hughs level wacky, but no one ever thought he’d work with the russians.
And space-x represent a host of capabilities that certainly fall in the country’s direct security interest. nationalize spacex?
it would never ever be considered but musk is that fucking stupid.
also, he’s lost tens of billions via twitter, so he’s ripe for compromise.
tsk…
The way he phrases it is as if Ukraine asked him to enable them to make the attack. They asked him to switch it back on, because he had explicitly disabled service in the area, after giving the devices to Ukraine in the first place.
So they can Netflix and chill during the Russian invasion. That’s definitely what these devices were for. No way Elon could’ve known there was any military usage in a country desperately fighting for it’s existance.
He’s said as much… That’s the really fucked up part. He’s behind
“Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes”. -Elon Musk
Like… ‘don’t worry about the war crimes, just Netflix and chill, Ukraine.’
Fuck Elon Musk.
If I had a product, I wouldn’t want it being used for war either. Know how id handle it? By not accepting millions from the Pentagon in the first place
Hoo boy, if they didn’t accept all that money, they wouldn’t have a company.
How so? Starlink predates the agreement musk made with the Pentagon to provide services in Ukraine
So if the country you lived it was being invaded, would you turn off the Internet in your country to prevent acts of war in the form of defensive operations?
If the country I lived in was being invaded they’d end civilization with their stockpile of 3000 or so nuclear warheads. Would I help them do that? No.
… if they somehow had control over the entire countries network?
Wut?
Elon doesn’t get it. He is neck deep in it. With his denying he helps the Invaders whereas with his allowance he would have helped ukraine fighting for their freedom.
He should be put on a list now imho.
So is he getting investigated for aiding an enemy of America during a time of war?
"There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate maritime support all the way to Normandie.
The obvious intent being to invade most of Nazi Europe.
If I had agreed to their request, then my company would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation."
Said the businessman, clearly not a member of the ANP
Uber wealthy private citizens able to control the path of wars in countries they don’t live in.
That’s some dystopian shit.
I also know for a fact that elon won’t hesitate to do something for Reason A and communicate Reason B as his motivation.
How is he not in jail already?
I just can’t get my head around this.
The fuck ist happening here
I’m pro-Ukraine, but I can understand someone not wanting their technology to be used for warfare. Saying “here’s Starlink, it’ll keep you connected even if Russia bombs your lines of communication” is different than saying “here’s a technology you can strap to a bomb and guide it to it’s destination.”
Musk is an egotistical asshole, but there’s validity for a company not wanting their technology, their communication pathways, to be used for killing people.
Part of me thinks that, based on his conduct over the recent years, Elon Musk is exactly so stupid that he never considered that if his company supplies gear for a military, they’re going to use it to do, like, military shit, and now he’s having a real crisis of conscience because he just never thought that his stuff would be used for, you know, war.
But on this occasion, I’m pretty sure Hanlon’s Razor won’t apply. Even if he said “Yes, I’ve been really really stupid about this and I’m a stupid little boy and you can quote me on that, put it on a shirt, make a Netflix documentary about it while you’re at it”, I’d still think this is is obviously a smokescreen and he’s being Putined one way or other.
I could be wrong but doesn’t this boil down to how the internet as a whole is used as in it’s not the fault of the isp/website what the users do
So would elon accept responsibility for terrorists organizing on his site?
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It’s well past time to nationalize Starlink.
