Be that as it may, the left is not going to do well if the prerequisite to having discussions is to read a bunch of literature. I think we need to find a way to make our tent bigger.

Thank you for your reply.

Why? Information is information. Why does it matter if it comes from books or videos?

I watch Vaush a lot and I haven’t seen what you are talking about.

Yeah, I am not surprised that you have disagreements behind Lenin and AES. The two are pretty related and hard to pull apart. I was just surprised that you would disagree with any of his Marxist takes. I think you both agree what the problems are from a Marxist perspective.

As for the sex offenders/sex pest stuff. I don’t think he is those things, but I understand I am just one person. From the stuff I have seen it is mostly people that disagree with him that label him as such as a way to get around the fact they don’t really have a leg to stand on; Fascists and the like. Not saying that is you of course.

Thanks for taking the time to talk this though by the way. I figure you get hit with a lot of stuff.

No idea, I have only watch him one or two times. Seemed good to me.

I do get that vibe from Vaush occasionally. Unfortunately the attention economy is a real thing and I would be impressed with anyone with the same reach as Vaush wouldn’t be doing similar things. I am not sure I would be as far left as I am without his content.

He has no grasp of Dialectical and Historical Materialism

Can you list a specific example? I think he has a good understanding of this.

I am pretty familiar with Vaush’s arguments on Marxist theory. What are your points of contention?

How can you have a problem with Vaush when he is so ideologically similar to Hasan? Unless you have have disagreements with Hasan.

As far as I know, all the criticisms of Vaush watching child porn has been misinformation.

For those that don’t like to read, you don’t have to read theory. In fact, most theory is old. There are newer and better takes on these ideas. Find a good YouTube channel that goes over the ideas. I like Vaush.

If you like to read theory, go for it. But I think there are faster and easier ways to get the concepts.

USA is starting their fascist speed run.

We are entering a “yeah and who’s going to stop me era of US politics”

OpenRA has been a thing for a while. Maybe they figure this is the final squeeze at the lemon before it becomes irrelevant.

If it is normalized to be a person who sleeps with a lot of people. Then there is no reason to lie about it. So the thing you’re concerned about would happen less and not more. Unless you intentionally went after people who publicly say they like open relationships. In which case it’s a skill issue on your part.

Are you trolling me? Do you really believe what you just posted?

Why not just meme all republicans like to eat babies? I am sure that will confuse a lot of them and that confusion will uhh, be really funny I guess, and that funny will uhh, improve the situation somehow?

You’re being ridiculous.

Ok, so there are two kinds of idiots.

1. The idiot who actually doesn’t know any better. They are just following the misinformation wherever it goes because their friend on face book said it and they trust them or something like that. Unironically the bacteria is crunchy and good for you and the bad things aren’t real.
2. The person you are talking about. The person who knows it is bad and knows what they are doing.

There are only a few 2s, most are 1s. Like 1 “2” for every 100000 “1”.

2s, as you have stated, don’t care. They know. They know their arguments are dumb and a misdirection. They will not engage with this meme, because they know what they are doing and they know it is wrong and they know that engaging with this will just out them and expose their bad takes.

Even if you get rid of all the 2s, 1s will self perpetuate. So you really should target the 1s.

The 1s are not aware of all of this 6d chess going on. So if you show them this meme, they are going to be confused because they have no problem with refrigeration and they are going to be mad because you are implying that they are dumb and you are not addressing their concerns. So they ignore us and don’t learn anything and we look like idiots. This is what the 2s want.

The thing is, pasteurization is an easy win for us. No need to overcomplicate it. Just tell the 1s and 2s the truth. Otherwise we end up looking like we don’t have an argument by making up positions they don’t have. If the 2s pipe up, we have the data and “It’s your life, if you want to risk getting deadly diseases tuberculosis, brucellosis, and E. coli, that is your choice”. If they go farther you can just say they are in a death cult, it’s easily winnable even if you are an ok debater.

Honestly the 1s are looking at this meme and must think it is some other group that is being targeted because they have no problems with refrigeration so this post is like 99% of people who agree with each other patting each other on the back. Fun, but not productive.

If you were prettier people would like your comment.

This feels like a straw man. I don’t remember them making any arguments against using a refrigerator.

I mean fuck them, but fuck them on topic otherwise we are just huffing out own smug cloud and that doesn’t convince anyone.