Reddit enrages users again by ditching thank-you coins and awards::Reddit, which is still dealing with the fallout from its last controversial decision, said it plans to phase out coins and awards.
Lemmy should make its own awards.
Award #1 – Blackjack
Aware #2 – Hookers
In fact forget the awards
I like to give out Lemmy Lemons 🍋
I enjoy that they’re meaningless and if people find them obnoxious they can just downvote them.
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As someone who would never pay for reddit coins or premium, it’s still pretty easy to identify with them.
They paid for a product and now it’s being removed with no compensation or refund. That’s total bullshit regardless of what the product was.
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sounds like an easy chargeback claim if that’s the case, “service not rendered/doesn’t exist anymore” might lose the acct out of it but who really cares at this point
I hated the “coin culture” with a passion (hey, look, it’s Bill Gates, let’s give him tons of paid emoticons he won’t care about!), but it’s clear this move is part of Reddit’s further enshittification. You can bet whatever replaces coins will be even shittier, and I think Reddit’s users know it.
I can’t identify with giving reddit money but I can sympathize with people who were saving monthly coins they paid for. Seriously, it has to be deliberate now. Why piss off your most loyal, paying customers? Is it a test?
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i used coins basically as a bookmark feature for great posts; it was nice to give a treat to a good poster as well. so incredibly stupid they’re destroying the site like this
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that used to be what i though would be my queue to exit…until i realised that my reddit experience was basically RIF… so yea if they want to get rid of another great chunk of users, do get rid of old reddit, do it spez!
Haha same. “Oh I will just use old reddit” forgetting that 95% of my internet usage is mobile and old.reddit is nearly impossible to navigate on mobile. I have been 94% Lemmy since July.
It’s funny whenever this is brought up on a reddit admin post. They always come with some stat saying a tiny % of users use old.reddit.com like that means people barely use it and therefore useless. But I see a lot of active posters talk about it which means those are probably the users you want to keep around lol.
That’s gonna be the final nail in the coffin for me. As of now I only go there for my city’s subreddit as the fediverse equivalent isn’t quite active yet.
Go be the change you want. Create posts, invite the users from your city’s subreddit
I just dumped all my old coins onto comments encouraging people to do chargebacks for any year-long Premium subscriptions since they’re in material breach.
Can you elaborate, I’m not quite sure i understand?
So when a charge is made against a credit card, you have the option to do a “chargeback” - this is meant to be used for fraud. In this case, the argument is that Reddit fraudulently changed the terms of the program after people had already paid - being in “material breach” means they made a binding promise to provide a thing and they failed to do so. Chargebacks are really, really bad for a vendor. They lose the money, and they get a penalty fee, AND if it keeps happening the credit card processor can crank up their overall fees or even drop them as a bad customer.
Are they really in material beach since the agreement you agreed to by giving them money basically says “coins have no value and we can delete them at any time we want”?
I mean, I hate Reddit as much as the next guy here but that sounds a bit like doing a charge back because you didn’t win on the slot machine you just pulled.
EULAs are not legally binding and any court and credit card company on the planet would accept that you had a reasonable belief that you would be provided the services that were offered when you paid for Reddit Premium.
Are you sure this would be considered an EULA and not a TOS?
Honestly the whole reddit protest was really good for me. I stopped spending so much time online, I only open lemmy occasionally too. Overall goodness for the planet
What do you do for the planet instead of browsing Reddit man. :D serious question!p
I’ve been working on switching careers for the last six or so months. Made a lot more progress after the protests and have a final interview on Thursday. Please send prayers and/or good vibes my way. Switching from Marketing to Cybersecurity. One less talented marketing person makes the world a little less cluttered with people buying shit they don’t need.
Besides that specifically since the protests started I’ve been researching and thinking about learning to play piano. It’s amazing how much time I wasted scrolling endlessly on Reddit.
That sounds awesome. :D But how can someone moves from marketing to cyber security. I mean, it’s a completely different thing.
Music instrument learning is fun! Glad that now you can utilize your time better.
Cybersecurity and Penetration Testing/Hacking is more skill based than most industries. It’s just a matter of learning the tools and getting good at it.
I think its supposed to mean that since they are spending less time they are more active outside of just the reddit focus and if they are doing it others will be doing similar. Less of a “good for the environment” and more of a “good for the group of people who quit”.
Amazing. Really does sound like they’re trying to sabotage the site now.
I was thinking about it; Lemmy could technically implement a system of gold on its own e.g can give one award a month after hitting a certain karma level or something to siphon more Reddit users.
But a lot of people on this site seem to not want normie Reddit users flocking here and my personal expectation is that people here would not care for awards. So whether they flock here or not will likely depend on how fed up they get.
I have no problem with Redditors flocking over here, but I just don’t think online discussions should be “awarded”. It just distracts from actual discussion and turns everything into a popularity contest. Leave the karma and point hoarding on Reddit IMHO.
I admit I like upvotes. They provide feedback on whether a comment was helpful. And awards highlighted the most helpful comments.
Did you mean awards? I haven’t found anyone who doesn’t like upvotes so I’m not sure why the distinction
The point I tried to make was: Awards are like an upvote on steroids. I like upvotes, so I like awards.
Sorry for wording it so badly.
I dunno, I thought your wording perfectly described Reddit comment experience 🤷🏻♀️
With how Lemmy works, it might be a little complicated. Especially since the payment information would need to be federated, and there would be a lot of complications depending on the region the server was hosted in.
Yeah. Giving awards would probably be limited to comments/posts that are on the same instance as your user.
Given the work by the guys behind podcasting 2.0 it would be interesting to see the fediverae adopt boosts backed by sats / the lightning network. It seems like they solve a lot of the same problems. You need a common currency people can freely transfer in small amounts to support content they like and the infra they are hosted on.
Here is an article by one of my favorite podcasts that have gone all in on boosts.
Honestly I wouldn’t want anything baked into the protocol, but I can see people donating small amounts to the instance hosting a worthy comment if there was a simple enough way to do it.
Cryptocurrencies were supposed to enable that, but I think we are still a long way away (no, lighting does not qualify).
A lot of Reddit users have become more toxic over the years. Let them sink down with the Reddit failboat, we don’t need them here.
Is spez trying to beat Musk’s record for number of strategic blunders made while running a tech company?
It seems so, and also seems like he’s in a hurry to catch up.
They were a zero-effort money printer. Why on Earth would they ditch them?
This makes no sense at all even from their perspective.
It was such a nice way to monetize, just a teensy little icon on posts you could easily ignore. Tells you whatever replaces it is gonna be far less acceptable.
Gonna be they’re version of a blue check mark. Buy the widget and it stays at the top regardless of up votes or down votes.
they’ll make blue aliens more important and always float to the top like the blue check robot armies on twitter lmao
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it’s zombie reddit over there. most of the people that stayed were just lurkers. They still think this was all caused by “power tripping mods” and don’t notice the site decaying around them. They’re just glad the mods that chastised them for being racist are gone.
For some people the experience hasn’t decayed. There is still cat pics and vitriol, if that’s all they used to see that’s all they still see.
I wonder if anyone has done an analysis of the ratio between say upvotes and # of comments. I bet it is much worse for Reddit these days and as commentors dwindle so does content people will add. It’s a downward spiral as people lose interest, and it just becomes a circle jerk of bots fooling advertisers, lol.
There’s still lots of comments over there, but the depth and variety of the comments seems to have sharply diminished.
They want to force redditors to see ads. That’s the whole point. Gilding someone was a way of gifting an ad-free experience to a random redditor, and Reddit doesn’t like that anymore.
Of course it’s also because spez doesn’t like seeing too many awards on “fuck spez” comments.
the lengths people will go before installing adblocker
most Reddit users use the official app now, so an adblocker is pretty much useless there
(+ the vast majority don’t know how to use an adblocking proxy on their phone)
I imagine having a baked-in method for users with disposable income to avoid seeing any ads isn’t exactly an attractive feature for potential advertisers.
That’s literally YouTube Premium’s value proposition.
Honestly I can’t wait for the downfall of reddit. They seem to be constantly pushing away and annoying their users.
how much is anyone’s betting that it will involve crypto in some way? i raise you a very fine 6mm dia 1m long aluminum tube
Honestly probably an nft. Pay extra for your own unique award to give out! 🤮
Reddit already has NFT avatars. Adding them for awards would make sense with that recent story about letting users make money from their awards. Bleh.
imo it’ll turn out to be more like another karma counter, especially after crypto they will be paid in craters (because no way it’ll involve real money)
I raise you this inanimate carbon rod.
i gamble only in the best metal, aluminum
they just want to become as generic as possible lol. “Let’s see how much fun we can drain from the lives of our zombies”
Wasn’t that one of the exclusive “features” of the official app. I guess there’s no point for exclusive features now.
