Remember, the American Nazi party had a ridiculous amount of traction. Enough to fill Madison Square Garden for Washington’s birthday. Those people didn’t just vanish after WWII. They didn’t denounce their beliefs. They just crawled into the cracks like cockroaches.
Also the Nazis took example with the pledge of allegiance as an effective tool for indoctrination of school children. In the US it also used to be done with the same gesture that is now the Nazi salute.
Furthermore eugenics and race theory were prominent as “sciences” in the US and the Nazis also took example there. If it wasnt for the alliance to the Japanese and Pearl Harbor, the US might well have been on the Nazis side of history, given that the social and ideological culture had many more similarities than disagreements.
While your comment about the Nazis getting a lot of their eugenics ideas from America in the 20’s-30’s is accurate, there’s no way in hell that we’d have just accidentally ended up in the Axis powers like that.
Were there Nazis in the US? Absolutely. Was their ideology common and/or the majority? Not at all.
We were literally allied with countries that the Nazis were attacking, and assisting them with supplies long before we ever entered the war due to Pearl Harbor. That’s before we even get into things like the Zimmerman note which indicated that the Germans in WW1 wanted to engage us as an enemy, which doesn’t bode well for their actions against those same allies 20 years later.
You’re taking the fact that eugenics existed here in the US and making up a metric fuck ton of revisionist history surrounding it.
The raised-arm salute isn’t inherently bad, it’s bad now because the Nazis did it. And so, America using a similar salute before the Nazis doesn’t mean America was as evil as the Nazis.
Don’t forget, however, that it was not the “right” in the US that was pro eugenics. It was the left and the Fabien socialists. Also didn’t forget, how those were the groups that were aligning themselves with the KKK.
Out of the shadows and into the light.
your meds, take them
Nah I’d rather buy a gun and fight the war.
Oh great, we’re doing political feel-good posting on this site too? Such low hanging fruit.
There’s definitely a discussion to be had for how the very far right (people whose core political ideology is based in racial prejudice and literal palingenetic ultranationalism) latch onto the sole major conservative political party in the United States and how they, as a component voting block, are catered to, if not explicitly represented by, portions of that party, and even dog whistled to by the party as a whole. This post, though, comes across as straight liberal smugposting and is somewhere between completely useless and actively harmful.
Agree with almost everything except the useless or harmful part. It’s just a meme meant for a quick laugh, it’s not that serious.
If we want to be serious though, the Republican party has been going further and further right in the past couple of years. The meme is kind of expressing this in a way.
the Republican party has been going further and further right in the past couple of years.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’ve never heard of Strom Thurmond?
Also, I would argue that memes like this are more designed for reddit style, low-effort upvote farming, than anything genuinely productive. This makes Lemmy worse and oversimplifies any conversation about American politics, with all of its complex and disparate, if nominally similar, but still competing ideologies, and how they shape its material composition and practical functioning. This all a fancy way of saying that the underlying sentiment of “Republicans are all Nazis and we don’t need to understand them further than that” attempts to trivialize a complex problem and a complex set of ideological beliefs and leverages that oversimplification as banal clickbait. And it makes those that consume it dumber for having done so, potentially.
It’s no different in function from any other form of demonising the outgroup. It’s slightly less bad than some because your political views can change, but it’s still a sign of politics gone wrong.
the Republican party has been going further and further right in the past couple of years
Tell me you only recently started paying attention to politics without telling me you only recently started paying attention to politics
Well then take the first shot and start the war… Otherwise it’ll just be drama memes for LIFE.
The war is inevitable… The sooner it starts the sooner it’s over. Neighbors, family, cops, thugs, there’s no knowing who the enemy is. It’s everyone vs everyone…
I see no point in furthing my personal life and goals until something real is done.
This is seriously funny! Too bad so many commenters are apologists.
Walt Disney would be proud
United Fruit Company —> Chiquita
Is there any “Memes” community that doesn’t post shit like this? We non Americans don’t care about this, we just want some fun memes and not being forcefed your culture war crap.
Speaking as a non american
Internet culture for certain will be affected by the cultures of member’s nation. Here in this community we (assuming)have many people around the globe so it easy to see we have americans too. Not all memes will be understood or found hilarious by everyone but you just cant say “shit”.
It is shit because these kinds of “memes” are not made to amuse, they’re made to spread ideological views and increase polarization.
fair enough but if you ken the inside politics and have a world view enough to decide which side to support, it is funny
I don’t support any side because I’m not an American, this shit doesn’t concern me. It’s not my culture war.
Let’s be real, it should be the American flag not just the Republican logo.
They’re not utterly fascist, you can’t do that to the last remnants of sanity left over in the states
Yeah it really depends on your area.
Not as much of a rebrand as a merger
Got em!
Well this is about as far off as it gets.
How is Microsoft and Target rebrands when it literally still says Microsoft and Target?
The brand is the corporate iconography, typography, etc. Not necessarily the name.
I thought this is a “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts” and this is the first shit I see as a new user?
Have you considered people are moving further right because your labeling them as such?
People are hurting and the right is blaming people (because that’s what the right always does), and people are eating it up. I’ve got a bunch of friends that are currently drinking the hate-machine cool-aid, but when I ask them questions to explain why they hold those views, they just simply can’t answer - propaganda works.
For example, a good friend of mine last week said in a car full of people he wished everyone in California died of a massive nuclear blast and he would throw a party on the news of their millions of deaths. I called him out about it to explain why - he said the governor was fucking everything up. I asked for a specific detail, he couldn’t think of one other than yelling woke woke woke. I asked him what woke means, he said he doesn’t know but it’s bad - gays and rainbows and trans and something about he has to like it. Needless to point out that he is a victim of the hate machine (his kid came out as trans, and I asked if he wanted his kid to be mistreated, and of course he wants the best for his kid…)
People don’t form these opinions where they wish the death of millions of unknown people all on their own, and they usually get echo chambered into those extreme views first.
Yeah propaganda works just like how it has worked on you.
You don’t see me wishing for the deaths of everyone in some state because my news channel tells me the governor of that state is a bad guy - perhaps if you actually had something better to say we could discuss this topic
No one is immune from propaganda not even you.
That’s the saddest, softest, snowflake excuse you could use.
It’s because you call us rapists we just have to do all that rapin’. Dontcha know.
The dumbest excuse.
I’m sorry but fried chicken isn’t racist, it’s just fried chicken.
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
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