Guys it’s been 8 months. It was a bad take.

  • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
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    I find I never actually look directly at an analogue speedometer, you kinda just know from the angle of the needle what speed you’re doing

    New to driving maybe?

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      That’s probably why digital displays still have analog speedometer options. At a glance it’s easier to tell what’s happening with your speed, rev count, and other levels like fuel.

      But much of that utility is useful for manuals and ICE-powered cars.

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        Unfortunately because of the digital spedometer, the analog one usually suffers.

        My mid-2010s c-class has an analog spedometer which is absolutely useless as it does not have a full needle and the fonts, spacing and colors are made to blend in with the interior instead of being readable.

        All this makes me use the digital one, which is very distracting and usually lagging behind, especially when quickly accelerating.

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          Reading very-fast-changing data is probably the only good argument I’ve seen for the superiority of analog guages in modern cars. A fast changing digital display is impossible to read. But practically speaking, when the data is changing that quickly, typically precision isn’t important.

          If car companies cared (which they clearly don’t) they could make digital displays better, by having a low refresh rate when there is low acceleration (to avoid distracting the driver), increase the refresh rate under heavy acceleration to display more current data, and apply some kind of effect to the fast changing digits to convey a sense of how fast they’re changing even if they’re changing too fast to read. Think of the odometer style altitude readout on old airplanes, where even if you can’t read the number you can tell wtf is up by how fast the numbers are spinning by.

          This isn’t to say that digital guages are better. They’re just different. It’s a personal preference thing.

          But you’re absolutely right that the analog guage has suffered from neglectful design in recent years.

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    2 years ago

    An analogue gauge is useful because you can see the rate of change not just the current value.

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    I think in this case analogue is actually easier to read. You don’t need to actually read any of the numbers to know how fast you’re driving, you just look at the angle of the needle.

    The human brain is great at things like this, and less good at reading numbers, which is much more learnt.

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    Easier to read?

    That would imply that an analog speedo is tough to read which is laughably wrong.

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      It can be? Not that it’s hard to read , but I felt it was harder to determine exact speeds in my last car. Am I going 41 of 40, 35 or 33. It’s not that big of a deal but I don’t really have that problem with digital.

      Analog is occupied by speeds you will never use. 80 to 260 is useless to be and practically a waste of space for consumer cars.

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        Am I going 41 of 40

        No speedo out there is accurate enough to distinguish between those two speeds.

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    2 years ago

    This must be related to people in their 20’s not knowing how to read a traditional clock anymore.

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      “Didn’t understand the sampling theorem” for $2 please.

      As long as the frequency of the measured signal is <1/2 the sample rate, you can reconstruct the original signal perfectly.

      If you plugged this jaggy-looking graph into a digital to analog converter with perfect analog circuitry, you’d get exactly the sine shown.

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    Not true. When I glance down I am not looking for a numerical value, “57.8”. I’m looking for the pointer around “60”, … yeah that’s what it feels like, all’s well.

    We’re not machines processing data. Cars are prosthetic devices, extensions of our bodies. You feel them down the road. You hit a big pothole and think, “ouch”.

    Digital odometer is necessary. Everything else is a visual ratio. Racers (used to) arrange their gauges so that every pointer is more or less straight up and down when “normal”. You don’t want to puzzle out meanings, you want a visual indication of what you’re feeling in the car.

    Digits give us precision, which is absolutely the last thing you need while driving. At best you need go/nogo, or trend. (“fuel lower than it was”).

    With instruments, the following are all completely independent: precision, resolution, accuracy. Even a digital speedo, how many digits you need? 2? 3? 6? lol 27.234 doesn’t mean shit. “28” is better. “hair less than 30” is fine. And “27.234” is just dumb when the speedo has a 2% error rate, which is quite good, as tires size varies with load, air pressure, brand, wear.

    What’s REALLY nice is a separate display with DIGITS on an LCD and a DATA LOGGER! Then you get both! It’s the best! I do this to my project cars; antiquated weird fun dials that are great for DRIVING, and a datalogger that writes to a microSD that 99% of the time you don’t care about, but if it’s running funny, or something fails, you can see it in the logs. It’s GREAT!

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    I like analog gauges. I very much like knobs. I dislike anything digital in a car other than a touch screen. Cars need to be able to be operated at a glance and by feel.

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        2 years ago

        Disagree. I like having the screen for Android auto with music, podcasts, and especially gps. I do hate digital buttons when they aren’t necessary but i like having the big main display.

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      Touch screen in cars isn’t a good idea, though. They may distract the driver.

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    I remember in the late 90s or so a car came out with an all digital instrument cluster. It made the news when they would completely fail, leaving people to not know anything about their speed or anything else about their car.

    A speedometer is more reliable and easy to read. Even so, several cars have them. Some even project your speed in the windshield as part of a heads up display.

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    I much prefer analogue. Angle of the needle is a quick read + I don’t like relying on a digital display for my essential information. Also aesthetics

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    Wouldn’t it be constantly fluctuating between speeds one or two numbers apart? Unless your foot is magic or you’re in cruise control, lol. I feel like it could be distracting.

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      You could make like a circular shape on the screen with numbers correlating to the speed on different angles. Then maybe add some rectangle which points at the current speed and effectively changes the angle when the speed changes.

      Oh wait…

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    TBH I hate screens in my car and am trying to buy one without one (which seems impossible now)

    Analog is less likely to fail, imo easier to read and is cheaper to service. There’s also the fact that the majority of drivers have had analog speedometers their entire life and getting rid of them will turn some drivers off of buying the car

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    I had a VW Tiguan that had both, but the digital one didn’t poll very often so it was incredibly unreliable. My Audi Q7 has both too, but the analog one is on a digital display, which is kind of weird to think about. Like a computer using an analog clock.