• Striker@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    1934·
    2 years ago

    I am fine with the place settling for a bit. It would suck if this place was as big as other sites are overnight. I want to watch this place grow over time

    • Aer@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      1132·
      2 years ago

      Natural, healthy, positive growth! Not growth for growths sake

    • Metallibus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, my main problem so far has been finding communities actually worth following/joining/contributing to.

      If suddenly tons of average people join, they won’t really find communities, they’ll deem that their analysis of Lemmy, and leave with tiny chances of a second chance. It’ll just boom and bust in it’s current state. Most people aren’t interested in starting or growing a small community.

      Meanwhile, if we stay at this size for a while, communities may form/grow, and as people trickle in, they’ll grow bit by bit.

    • greendakota99@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      I’m interested in seeing how well these great open source apps for Lemmy scale as the user base and post/comment data grows.

      • lightsecond@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        The apps are already amazing and will not suffer issues of scale themselves because they run on users’ devices. The scaling issues will be in Lemmy server code and ActivityPub in general.

        ActivityPub doesn’t seem very scalable IMHO. It works well if all instances are about the same size and communities are well-distributed. Right now a few servers like lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, and lemmy.ml are much larger than others. They host most of the popular communities as well. This creates an imbalance which ActivityPub doesn’t handle well.

        I think Lemmy instances should be topic based. But that’d be confusing for people coming from centralized social media who are only trying to find a reliable starting place. So I really hope we reach a point of maturity and mainstream-ness of Fediverse that people feel comfortable with smaller theme-based instances.

        • Dogeek@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          2 years ago

          My main gripe with ActivityPub is that the infrastructure basically replicates 1-to-1 across subscribed instances. It means that as lemmy grows, servers will require more and more storage to keep up. For now, it’s fine since we’re under a few TB of content on the platform.

          If lemmy were to be as popular as reddit, we’d reach the dozens if not hundreds of TB of storage required. Not everyone has the money to build such a homelab or rent data center servers of that caliber.

          ActivityPub in it’s current state is nothing but replicated centralization, not a full decentralized protocol. We’d probably need a different database system that handles cross region clustering and sharing to scale it up.

          • Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.de
            1·
            11 months ago

            If you don’t mirror everything locally, you can lose data when other instances go down. Decentralization just has high data costs, take a look at git or bitcoin. I just hope ActivityPup learned something from Diaspora, where small instances couldn’t handle the amount traffic comming from big instances.

            • Dogeek@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              11 months ago

              My point was that there is no need to replicate everything everywhere. If the data is replicated a cross 5 instances per region for instance, it’s enough for replication needs. If you self host lemmy and subscribes to large communities on your instance, you can quickly overload your server. We need activity pub to be more lightweight if we want smaller instances to thrive.

    • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      As long as we have the population to stabilize the big communities and slowly fill out the niche ones as reddit drives ever downward. I think we will be ok.

  • HereticHydra@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    2 years ago

    That is probably my fault, I’m cursed and the moment I ever join any organization or community, something invariably always happens.

    • Bleeping Lobster@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      2 years ago

      Still no real idea what “instances” are and no idea if I am missing out on entire subs because I am on .world. No clue. Do people on .world only see this?

      ‘Communities’ are akin to subreddits. ‘Instances’ are akin to reddit allowing other people to spin up their own version of reddit with their own ruleset, but still under the reddit umbrella; with other reddit-users being able to access other reddits. But, those ‘other reddits’ might decide hey we don’t like clowns so we are blocking clown reddit; clown reddit can no longer access the other reddits, without directly registering on them.

      If you want to expand your lemmy experience, when you fire up lemmy.world, there is a setting at the top which defaults to subscribed (iirc), change this to ‘All’ and it will show posts from all other instances that aren’t defederated.

    • MrNesser@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I use wefwef which is now voyager never had this issue.

      Never actually chosen a language.

      Many of the subs are empty because they were either created by squatters wanting to be uber mods of many subs or by the current reddit mods in case they wish to migrate in the future.

      Website I can’t speak to as I use the app which I’ve had no issues with and is updated daily.

      I’m also kinda lost on instance but I’m in lemmy.world and I seem to have all the important subs/whatever I want.

  • Dazed_Confused@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    2 years ago

    Well, I deleted my account, so there is no going back to reddit. Also discussions here seem better for me for some reason.

  • 0235@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    2 years ago

    Ah I see you work in my work places wage and bonus calculation department.

    • Zithero@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      2 years ago

      “We had a 2% reduction in profits this year guys, 😭”

      “The company lost money?”

      “What? Oh no! But we made 3 bn in profits last year and we only made 2.8bn this year… So to make up for the shortfall, we’ll be reducing 401k contributions.”

      “…didn’t the CEO get a 200million bonus-”

      “WE ALL NEED TO MAKE SACRIFICES!”

    • Aldrond@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      Every capitalist: You did great, and we know all the prior meetings talked about record profits, but we just can’t afford to give you a bonus. Soooorryyyyyyyyy.

    • ChlorineAddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      2 years ago

      This is a pretty standard curve for a recently discovered thing. Everyone is curious what it is, tries it out then a percentage decides it isn’t for them and goes elsewhere.

      I had to be pretty stubborn to get into Lemmy, never received the verification email (likely due to sudden server load) and no way to retrigger it, so had to wait until the new version came out. Apparently that removed the login block. Not to mention the filter on my account defaulting to showing no posts (needed to set language filter to include undetermined and my language), so it was kind of a rough entry.

      But this number isn’t total accounts, it’s active accounts. So that means people who have logged in at least once during the last month. The accounts still exist from when people came to check it out, but if they decided it wasn’t for them or ran into issues like I did and didn’t return then they’d fall off the active user list.

      New products face this curve all the time. Steady growth, discovery spike then retained user drop back to steady, hopefully accelerated, growth with a higher baseline than before.

      • Contramuffin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        I am also under the impression that active only counts users who commented or posted. So there is also a very significant possibility that people are just settling in and starting to lurk. It’s really the 90-9-1 principle (in a stable community, 90% lurk, 9% are occasionally active, 1% are consistently active). It would really be weirder if we didn’t see some lurkers after such a massive influx of people

    • UntouchedWagons@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      There was a post the other day about other lemmy servers that had thousands of inactive users. The OP contacted the admins of those servers to let them know and several admins did purge a load of accounts.

  • danieldeer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    2 years ago

    For me it still feels a lot more silent than in the old reddit world. Nonetheless I enjoy the content here more than I did in the end of using reddit 🤷‍♂️

    • ThirdWorldOrder@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      It’ll take some time but before you know it, it’ll explode and then you’ll fondly reminisce about the good old days when things were quieter