Have you ever seen Israelis and actual Palestinians? Palestinians are pretty diverse themselves regarding skin color and looks. There are Palestinians with African features and dark skin, as well as ones with red hair and blue eyes. The region at the crossroads between Africa and Asia has always had different kinds of people moving there.
More than half of Jewish Israelis have ancestors who were expelled from Muslim and Arab countries. They don’t typically look like Northern Europeans, but more like Arabs.
Originally, yes the Ashkenazi’s were the big Zionists. Modern Zionism is an Ashkenazi invention after all.
However, after generations of Ashkenazi’s treating the local Mizrahi’s as second class citizens, the Mizrahi’s have become the most rabid Zionists. Its a similar dynamic to how second class whites become the most racist.
I just hate that whites include so many assholes. I hereby secede Scandinavia from whites. We shall be known as nords. I’m not gonna stand for what these hypnotised power crazy narcissists are doing any more.
So I noticed you didn’t answer the question. Because we both know the answer. Reactionary Zionism, which is the group you pretend not to understand the origins of, completely comes of European ancestry. The likud party has its Origins entirely from reactionary Zionism and the European Jews… The fact that they’ve got a lot of people to vote against their interests doesn’t change the fact of who they are and where they came from. Nor who their leadership primarily is made of.
( also that article pretty much refutes your point)
You wrote it again, but do you mean Revisionist Zionism? I didn’t pretend, as it’s completely irrelevant.
You wrote that the hardcore Zionist tends to be European. You were corrected that it isn’t true today.
You should clarify yourself if you meant something else.
The article points out Mizrahi are more right wing.
Likud’s voters are still mostly Mizrahi, even if less Mizrahi are voting for them as compared to the past.
And it isn’t the only right wing party or the most extreme one. Ben Gvir’s party is worse and also has mostly Mizrahi voters.
I haven’t managed to find the articles that talked about the last election in the context of Mizrahi Jews, but you can go through the last election result map and see the places where the Likud got the highest percentages are almost all Mizrahi dominated.
Third time. Just don’t want to admit that the ones driving the train, that they brag about being on time I’m sure, tend to be the European ones. Your article even mentioned how the leaders of the likud party tended to be white. But you don’t want to admit it for some reason. Curious.
Are you asking how fascism is against the interest of all people? I would assume that self-explanatory I’m concerned you need it explained.
What you originally wrote doesn’t imply only leaders.
The current leaders of Zionist parties that are part of the government are, Netanyahu, Smotrich, Ben Gvir and Arie Deri. That’s 2 Ashkenazis and 2 Mizrahis.
They voted for the Likud mostly because of the racism they experienced. That resulted in much more Mizrahi Jews in places of power and the shrinking of the gap between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews.
Justifiable or not, that clearly worked in their interest.
But clearly you’re just looking to attack people, so I’m wasting my time.
No I mean reactionary Zionism. As in the most radical reactionary wing of revisionary Zionism. As in the likud party. As in the ones who kept working with the Nazis even after World War II started. Those motherfuckers.
God damn man how much Israeli history do I have to teach you here? Do you think the likud party sprang up from nothing? Did you think it came from like the primordial ooze fully formed? My God man. Do some basic reading please. Learn about the Herut and the Irgun. Learn about Menachem Begin. Learn about the Lehi and Yitzhak Shamir.
Good Lord, talking to you is like talking to these anti-dei people who think that history of race relations in America started in 2008. Ignoring the previous 400 years rather taints the argument.
Have you ever seen Israelis and actual Palestinians? Palestinians are pretty diverse themselves regarding skin color and looks. There are Palestinians with African features and dark skin, as well as ones with red hair and blue eyes. The region at the crossroads between Africa and Asia has always had different kinds of people moving there.
More than half of Jewish Israelis have ancestors who were expelled from Muslim and Arab countries. They don’t typically look like Northern Europeans, but more like Arabs.
The hardcore Zionist tend to be the European ones though.
Originally, yes the Ashkenazi’s were the big Zionists. Modern Zionism is an Ashkenazi invention after all.
However, after generations of Ashkenazi’s treating the local Mizrahi’s as second class citizens, the Mizrahi’s have become the most rabid Zionists. Its a similar dynamic to how second class whites become the most racist.
I just hate that whites include so many assholes. I hereby secede Scandinavia from whites. We shall be known as nords. I’m not gonna stand for what these hypnotised power crazy narcissists are doing any more.
No, the ones who vote for Netanyahu‘s Likud and other right wingers are mostly Mizrahi from the Middle East and North Africa. Ashkenazi are more likely to vote left or centrist parties.
Don’t know what you mean by hardcore Zionist, as there’s not really a political movement named like that.
You fell victim to propaganda and framing tailored to your western prejudices.
This is the political movement they are referring to.
Where do Netanyahu and likud Party come from again? Where was the birthplace of reactionary Zionism?
You mean Netanyahu’s parents.
Where were Ben Gvir’s parents from?
The majority of Likud, Shas and Ben Gvir voters are Mizrahi Jews.
Israeli Mizrahi Jews in general tend to be more right wing in general.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-08-23/ty-article/.premium/is-likud-still-the-party-of-israels-mizrahi-voters-these-experts-say-otherwise/0000017f-dbf2-db22-a17f-fff38d570000
https://archive.md/HBvfq
So I noticed you didn’t answer the question. Because we both know the answer. Reactionary Zionism, which is the group you pretend not to understand the origins of, completely comes of European ancestry. The likud party has its Origins entirely from reactionary Zionism and the European Jews… The fact that they’ve got a lot of people to vote against their interests doesn’t change the fact of who they are and where they came from. Nor who their leadership primarily is made of.
( also that article pretty much refutes your point)
You wrote it again, but do you mean Revisionist Zionism? I didn’t pretend, as it’s completely irrelevant.
You wrote that the hardcore Zionist tends to be European. You were corrected that it isn’t true today.
You should clarify yourself if you meant something else.
The article points out Mizrahi are more right wing.
Likud’s voters are still mostly Mizrahi, even if less Mizrahi are voting for them as compared to the past.
And it isn’t the only right wing party or the most extreme one. Ben Gvir’s party is worse and also has mostly Mizrahi voters.
I haven’t managed to find the articles that talked about the last election in the context of Mizrahi Jews, but you can go through the last election result map and see the places where the Likud got the highest percentages are almost all Mizrahi dominated.
And vote against their interests in which way?
Third time. Just don’t want to admit that the ones driving the train, that they brag about being on time I’m sure, tend to be the European ones. Your article even mentioned how the leaders of the likud party tended to be white. But you don’t want to admit it for some reason. Curious.
Are you asking how fascism is against the interest of all people? I would assume that self-explanatory I’m concerned you need it explained.
What you originally wrote doesn’t imply only leaders.
The current leaders of Zionist parties that are part of the government are, Netanyahu, Smotrich, Ben Gvir and Arie Deri. That’s 2 Ashkenazis and 2 Mizrahis.
They voted for the Likud mostly because of the racism they experienced. That resulted in much more Mizrahi Jews in places of power and the shrinking of the gap between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews.
Justifiable or not, that clearly worked in their interest.
But clearly you’re just looking to attack people, so I’m wasting my time.
Netanyahu was born in Tel Aviv.
What’s that supposed to be? Do you mean revisionist Zionism?
No I mean reactionary Zionism. As in the most radical reactionary wing of revisionary Zionism. As in the likud party. As in the ones who kept working with the Nazis even after World War II started. Those motherfuckers.
What are you referring to?
Likud didn’t exist until the 1970s. There are far more extreme parties than Likud. Smotrich and Ben Gvir are not Likudniks for example.
God damn man how much Israeli history do I have to teach you here? Do you think the likud party sprang up from nothing? Did you think it came from like the primordial ooze fully formed? My God man. Do some basic reading please. Learn about the Herut and the Irgun. Learn about Menachem Begin. Learn about the Lehi and Yitzhak Shamir.
Good Lord, talking to you is like talking to these anti-dei people who think that history of race relations in America started in 2008. Ignoring the previous 400 years rather taints the argument.
I know more about these things than your propagandized distortions.