Seven Havens’ plot tease has already set The Legend of Korra defenders back a decade again.
LoK fans who actually participate in any of the modern fandom are so jaded. It’s like Star Wars, where the original gets put on a higher and higher pedestal (by the fandom) as the years drag by, and every tiny thing about the sequels fry under microscopes and nostalgia.
And /r/thelastairbender is so… I dunno the word, but I haven’t checked it in months. It’s like everyone has a short attention span and keeps asking the same things without a single search. No interest in deep lore or speculation, lots of misinformation parroted, and repetitive, almost reverent fawning over ATLA. It wasn’t like this during the LoK premiere.
Tumblr and other art feeds are still nice though. Meanwhile, I’m over here shamelessly writing out a Seven Havens fic on Ao3. At peace.
If avatar was the war, korra explains why it was fought. Yoj fight for every single person, you carry each with you. It’s crucial to learn empathy and become one with what isn’t you. Only then can you grow, only then you can inspire.
It’s only slander if it isn’t true and Korra wasn’t particularly good anyway.
Korra was mint. What you on about?
In fact that show being what it is is the only reason some people i know got into the franchise as a whole. ATLA looked too kiddy for them.
I so strongly disagree. LoK was awesome. Even years past the shows, Korra and Zuko are still two of my favorite fictional characters ever.
Cool. It’s still not the general consensus though and I don’t understand why this is a hill so many choose to die on.
Your opinion of LoK aside, this is a weird take given that
It’s only slander if it isn’t true
You could have stopped there but you felt the need to add
and Korra wasn’t particularly good anyway.
totally unprompted. Like, you’re the one who made the first statement about whether LoK was “good” or not, so following up with “idk why other people” just seems silly. “Why?” Because you, that’s why.
And that’s fine. You’re allowed to have your opinion and they’re allowed to have theirs. Just don’t act like it’s a mystery that people with different opinions want to share them when you’re sharing yours.
Boo hoo, are your fee fees hurt?
It’s always the same with you Korra apologists. Ome negative statement is followed by a tirade.
That first half refers to the objective problems of Korra while the second is subjective but backed by the first.
totally unprompted
Sorry for engaging with the title. And no, not “because me”. People just don’t want to accept that Korra, both show and character, aren’t a good sequel. As a show, not bad but as a sequel it’s too wishy-washy. Trying to tie into a story, pissing on it and trying to appeal to a new audience allnat once just leads to a divided audience like this. I don’t dislike Korra, I genuinely like some of it, but I can’t watch it as a TLA fan because of what it does to the legacy.
Of all the hills to die on, trying to establish Korra as a net good is a waste of time. As for your attempt to dumb down my comments and make them seem more disjointed, well done, valiant effort. It shows how good an argument is when the go-to is to try tear down the opposition instead of pointing out where it’s wrong. Just tells me you have nothing. Have a nice day. I know I will because I’ll be spending it away from Lemmy and this wave of Korra rabids.
Plus, if it wasn’t for the blind vitriol, it might become apparent that the initial statement also refers to whatever the writing of the new show decides Korra did after the credits. If her actions caused the end of the world, for example, then it’s not slander to call her an idiot.
All you did was berate LoK fans for their opinion and didn’t elaborate on why you think it’s bad. You didn’t provide any constructive contribution to the discussion, you just wanted to be an asshole.
Boo hoo, are your fee fees hurt?
If so many are “choosing to die on” it then maybe you’re the one that is outside the general consensus… I’ve only ever heard people say good things about it. You’re literally the first I’ve ever heard say anything negative about it.
Let me be the second to visit you under your rock then! Korra was an incredibly disappointing and obnoxious follow-up to one of the best shows ever released.
“So many” does not mean “the majority” in any capacity. You seem to be taking this weirdly personally and as for me being the first person you’ve encountered voice this opinion, you’ve either somehow avoided the conversation of TLoK online or you’re lying to defend your bias which, again, is kinda weird since I don’t recall saying the character or the sbow were bad, only “not good”. There’s still a world of nuance in that range.
“So many” does not mean “the majority” in any capacity
Correct. However, “general consensus” would mean the majority in most capacities, so it feels like you’re shifting the goalposts here.
As for what the general consensus actually is, well… seems to be pretty positive for the most part. On Rotten tomatoes it has a 89% critic score and 79% audience. On imdb it’s rated at 8.3. On metacritic, it has an 8.0 user score. I would say the general consensus is actually pretty positive. No, it’s not as high as ATLA. And yes, people on fandom boards are often going to be more critical, especially in a highly engaged fandom. But the general consensus does seem to be that LoK was, in fact, “good”. Doesn’t mean you have to revise your opinion about it being mediocre, or whatever, but y’know, you don’t have to die on the hill that the general consensus is that it’s “not good”.
Also,
You seem to be taking this weirdly personally
The person you’re responding to made one comment in the entire thread? It disagrees with you, but there is nothing in it that even remotely suggests they’re taking it “weirdly personally”. Don’t project that on them.
I’ve watched the Avatar fandom for years, and discussion of tlok has grown more toxic and toxic. I’d say that does not represent the average viewer, especially those that stepped away for awhile.
The comment threads from the episode premieres are like a totally different fandom.
Premiere threads are always like that. The Agatha All Along premiere threads from a few months ago were overwhelmingly positive too, but now that people have had a few months to digest, the more critical opinions are starting to surface more and more.
It was like that with Korra too - it’s just that with how good ATLA was it took a bit longer for people to stop coping and realize just how bad LoK was.
with how good ATLA was
This is my issue with the fandom.
ATLA was not perfect! It had a lot of immaturity, and crude jokes. It had bad or slow episodes. It had a self-indulgent habit of trying to introduce/develop too many characters, dues ex machinas, plot holes, and crappy video quality even on the blu-ray, which I have spent many hours trying to fix. And on mercurial, angry, inconsistently acting, constantly complaining and yelling, constantly losing main characters that make annoyingly impulsive, irrational decisions… I’m referencing Zuko, not Korra, and he’s one of my favorite characters ever. I could go on and on tearing every little detail and flaw of ATLA open.
I swear, every single sentence on the Avatar subreddit these days is prefixed with “ATLA is so incredible but,” every critique sent to oblivion (except for a few memes like the Lion Turtle), and it was not always like that. It reminds me of the Star Wars fandom, which I peeked my head into after being blown away by Andor… only to find people tearing it apart because it’s not like the original movies or something.
So… yeah. Hate to be salty, but there is some salt.
And this isn’t just about LoK either. It’s NATLA too, and even the fantastic novels. And it’s already starting with Seven Havens.
Preach!
Too late, my friend, the fans are coming for my throat 😂 I guess truth cuts too deep but I suppose this is the show that appeals to a particular mind.
No, you were kinda being a jerk about it, in a way that had very little to do with Avatar. That’s why people piled on.
