• Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    2020 Election: The Democrats gained control of the Senate after the Georgia runoff elections in January 2021. This flipped the Senate from Republican to Democratic control. The Senate was tied 50–50, but with Vice President Kamala Harris holding the tie-breaking vote, the Democrats technically controlled the chamber.

    The Supermajority: A supermajority in the Senate requires 60 votes to overcome filibusters and pass most legislation. This means that, while Democrats technically had control with 50 seats plus the Vice President’s tie-breaking vote, they did not have a full 60-vote supermajority.

    However, there was one brief moment when Biden’s party had a 60th vote, which occurred after Senator Al Franken resigned and was replaced with Senator Tina Smith in 2018

    At best their ‘accomplishments’ you mention were limited, while vastly more dammage was done in other fields.
    They celebrate 1 step forward while simultaniously going 3 steps back somewhere else.
    The drone king was one of the worst and harmful presidents ever.
    That party can not and does not want to be fixed, it’s working as intended.

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      22 hours ago

      the Democrats technically controlled the chamber.

      Correct - technically, but not practically - because they absolutely can’t get anything substantial done with the Republicans and right-wing Democrats, as they didn’t have a filibuster proof supermajority.

      However, there was one brief moment when Biden’s party had a 60th vote, which occurred after Senator Al Franken resigned and was replaced with Senator Tina Smith in 2018

      That…just isn’t true though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115th_United_States_Congress They had at most 47 votes, right? Also…recall who was president in 2018. Certainly not enough congressional control to override the inevitable veto.

      At best their ‘accomplishments’ you mention were limited, while vastly more dammage was done in other fields.

      Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that many of the accomplishments were limited. I’m not saying they are going to save us, and while I want to wrest control from the right-wing leadership in the Democratic party, I’m not terribly optimistic that it’ll happen in my lifetime. IMHO we need more coordination and cooperation on the Left to organize enough to do what the Tea Party did on the Right with the GOP…the major difference is that the folks in power in the GOP weren’t ideologically opposed to the Tea Party, unlike the corporate Dems v. the “Actual Left”, so maybe that’s a fool’s errand, especially given the power structures in place, and the inherently anti-democratic system of government re: SCOTUS, Senate, Electoral College, etc.

      Look: I don’t think we disagree all that much: I’m just trying to acknowledge nuance and correct misinformation. So…what do you suggest we do about the Democrats being at best speed bumps to real progress?

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        22 hours ago

        While you acknowledge that they are shit I fundamentally disaggree with you on trying to fix that party.
        There is no reason to do that. As long as people don’t vote 3rd party it’s their own fault, I have zero sympathy for them.