• fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    Neither ever stopped being imperialist, and they’re both part of the imperial core, so it’s no surprise they’re going to back Israel. Fuck them.

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      16 hours ago

      What kind of logic is that? The tool exists and it takes 30 seconds to achieve a comparable result to what would’ve taken 10-30 minutes doing manually depending on user’s skills. Is it only ok to use image generation for hard-to-do stuff?

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          53 minutes ago

          Yes, really. And I actually think I was quite conservative with time requirements.

          And why can’t you only judge the idea/joke aspect of the work? Sure, the execution didn’t require much effort, but the point was to convey* the idea/joke.

          Are holodeck programs in StarTrek automatically worthless because to create them people merely instruct the Computer what and where to put?

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                2 hours ago

                There’s no point in trying to debate or reason with anti-AI trolls, most of them are neolibs or just regular libs anyway. If they weren’t they wouldn’t be barfing out the same tired ass talking points and using ad-hominem to attack logical rebuttals to their arguments.

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              This IS human expression. Human had a concept and realized it using a tool. Human expression comes in many shapes and forms. How is this any less effort than adding caption to a template image, which is 80% of regular memes? IMO, you’re just biased and don’t treat it fairly.

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          14 hours ago

          Is it against the rules to deride the use of image generation models in this community? Clarifying because your rules section says nothing about it.

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                Yeah, I originally joined dbzero because its an anarchist instance and I am an anarchist, but grew to dislike it cause of how pro-AI it is. So I swapped to slrpnk. But slrpnk is down and so I am stuck using dbzero till its back up.

                I find it kinda wild that they are so pro-AI too cause all of the friends I have that are anarchists are varying degrees of anti-AI. Personally, I would be fine with AI if we lived in an anarchist society because no one would be negatively affected by it. However we don’t, so there is only a very very small niche use case where you can use AI ethically. Otherwise I see it as scabbing. Being anti-copyright shouldn’t mean walking all over artists and other creators.

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                2 hours ago

                someone reported this comment with the report reason “Anti-AI Trolling in an AI friendly community”

                What makes this an AI-friendly community? I just read the sidebar and don’t see anything about AI.

                I do see however that this community’s list of rules includes this peculiar pair:

                • Only post socialist memes
                • Don’t idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

                🤔

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                  48 minutes ago

                  someone reported this comment with the report reason “Anti-AI Trolling in an AI friendly community”

                  I like how people are treating any criticism of AI as “trolling.” Like, it’s one thing to tolerate AI images, but apparently there’s a bunch more devout techbros around here than I realized.

                  Edit: Lmao, it got removed! Trolling now officially means, “Disagreeing with me, about anything, in any way, for any reason.”

                  Only post socialist memes

                  Don’t idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

                  A surprisingly common set of beliefs.

        • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          13 hours ago

          Also blatantly lie about facts to push their own agenda, and insist or assert that they’re actually true, hoping no one will seriously challenge them. Strawmen and ad-hominems are their favorite tactics to use in their debates. Someone should make a meme about this behavior and how it’s mostly turbolib garbage.