I never praised religion without nuance, I gave praise where praise was due when the topic is “When has religion ever deserved respect”. Your point is moot because a bad portion of a group does not make the whole group bad, and does not change my point that religious groups do have reasons to be respected.
People doing good is respectable wouldn’t you say?
I think you’re not taking into account its hierarchical nature founded on unquestioning obedience, and the unearned & inherent facade of trust it has for some people. These tools aren’t available for the non-religious which is very enabling if your goal is to exploit. And exploit they have.
I think your not taking into account the hundreds of religions there are in the world, and making blanket statements about “all religious people” is at best ignorant.
I want to specify that I’m taking about all the dominant religions in the West with known charities like the Salvation Army. I don’t particularly know or care about the Hare Krishna who gather downtown once a year offering free food with an ulterior motive and practically no noticeable social impact for anyone other than themselves, for example.
I don’t think I could talk about all religions in the world, but I can safely talk about major trends and commonalities. That does not make me ignorant.
What, is that supposed to be a zinger? I’d criticize any religion, but the only religions immediately around me with any noticeable impact are Catholics and La Luz del Mundo. I don’t care to talk about hypotheticals or extreme cases because those are unproductive. Or tell, why are you keen on talking about the exceptions to the rule?
And religious groups and individuals also do a whole lot of destructive, demented and fucked up acts of evil.
So do non religious people. Pretty easy to see the common denominator wouldn’t you say?
My point was not to say that non religious people are all saints, but to balance out your previous point where you praised religion without nuance.
Of course the common denominator is people. And it’s pretty easy to see how religion is a powerful tool for these people to do evil, wouldn’t you say?
I never praised religion without nuance, I gave praise where praise was due when the topic is “When has religion ever deserved respect”. Your point is moot because a bad portion of a group does not make the whole group bad, and does not change my point that religious groups do have reasons to be respected.
People doing good is respectable wouldn’t you say?
I think you’re not taking into account its hierarchical nature founded on unquestioning obedience, and the unearned & inherent facade of trust it has for some people. These tools aren’t available for the non-religious which is very enabling if your goal is to exploit. And exploit they have.
I think your not taking into account the hundreds of religions there are in the world, and making blanket statements about “all religious people” is at best ignorant.
I want to specify that I’m taking about all the dominant religions in the West with known charities like the Salvation Army. I don’t particularly know or care about the Hare Krishna who gather downtown once a year offering free food with an ulterior motive and practically no noticeable social impact for anyone other than themselves, for example.
I don’t think I could talk about all religions in the world, but I can safely talk about major trends and commonalities. That does not make me ignorant.
I know you were only talking about the “safe” religions to criticize. That was my point.
What, is that supposed to be a zinger? I’d criticize any religion, but the only religions immediately around me with any noticeable impact are Catholics and La Luz del Mundo. I don’t care to talk about hypotheticals or extreme cases because those are unproductive. Or tell, why are you keen on talking about the exceptions to the rule?
You make zero sense.
Oh, of course I don’t.