and if you atheist/switched faiths, why did you do it and what faith did you choose?
im in a curious mood today :>
I am a Muslim, so Islam.
Wow, you are like the only Muslim here lol, are you from the west?
Nope, not the west, asia
My religion is “keep your religion dar the fuck away from me”.
I believe in freedom from religion even more strongly than of religion
Agnostic atheist.
Antitheist
2nd
Atheist, but i find the myth of Lucifer interesting. A being who had feelings of becoming more than what he was. Then confronting his creator to declare he is more, and will not yield.
Agnostic Satanist. It’s basically the same as humanism but also triggers religious fundamentalists.
I also read the bible extensively and have a bible app on my phone with bookmarks to tell people how Jesus was most likely gay and so on. Most religious people didn’t even read their own damn texts haha
What do you mean “if you are an atheist, why did you do it”? I just want raised with a religion.
Apathetic since forever.
Atheist, universalist Unitarian. Other people’s theism is just at the bottom of my priorities these days lol. UUs seem like nice people
Discordian
Organized religion is created as a mean to control people.
But we’re on a rock in space that developed sentient life… How the fuck ?
I firmly believe, with all of my heart, that religion is fucking bullshit
This one thinks there were three cycles of moon giving from our mother Fadomai. Ahnurr gave Fadomai her cubs. First was Alkosh, followed by Khenarthi, Magrus, Mara lastly there was S’rendarr.
During the second moon gift there was now Merrunz, Mafala, followed by Sangiin.
Although Ahnurr’s house was full, Alkosh and others wanted more cubs to bask in lights warmth.
So Fadomai gave her first cubs their wishes. Azurah, Nirni, Y’ffer, Masser, Secunda all joined with the light children.
Fadomai still had longing for small cubs so she fled to the void and one cub, Lorkhaj was given.
Exhausted, Fadomai knew her time of ending was near. So a gift was given to Nirni, for she desired to give cubs the light.
So it was that Nirni came to her brother Lorkhaj for she needed a new dwelling for her cubs. Lorkhaj did just so, forming the mortal realm. Some of Fadomai’s first cubs were imprisoned in the new realm. The second set of Fadomai’s cubs saw what had happened and did not follow.
Mayhaps was not just Nirni who was given the gift of cubs. So is said Azurah came down to one of Nirni’s cubs and shape his form most desirably, so log as they would be given their mother Fadomai’s Beauty, Ahnurr intelligence and Alkosh’s streingth.
Azurah found some of Nirni’s cubs in the forest and from them Khajiit were born under Masser and Secunda’s light.
Angered by Azurah’s decision to take so many cubs Nirni came to Y’ffer and ask for punishment. He did so turning the grasses to warm sands and forest to marsh.
Azurah loved her cubs and taught them the ways of the moons and the gift of shapes.
However not all her children were given the gifts of Azurah and favored Nirni. By her hand the fur was taken and the forest given. For Nirni also loved here cubs and their grandcubs.
Although maybe not M’aiq is very practical. He has no need for mysticism.
Atheist. Religion is an explanation of the world that’s made the fuck up. I think people make shit up to explain reality because accepting uncertainty is difficult, but that doesn’t make it ok. The world around you exists, just like it is. There is no special place you get to go if you follow the right set of rules .
Antitheist.
If there is some kind of almighty God that created and rules everything then it must be the most evil being to ever exist and we must destroy it. It created evil, it created suffering, it created loss, it created death, and for what? Fun?
This is also me. If there’s an afterlife, I’m spending it beating “god’s” ass.
I once read about an african creed that states the original creator of reality created it because it found something existing was better than only void - in the sense of absolute nothing - existing, and thus set what we perceived as reality into building itself and let it to its own devise, to never again interfere or meddle with it, to then disappear.
It’s a convoluted way to state: deal with your own mess; I just set the stage, you write and act your own play.
It’s a good way to deny people of the easy cop out.
Imagine you intentionally become pregnant, give birth to a child, and then throw them in a dumpster. That’s the god you described.
Except multiply that by billions of lives.
If such happens it is entirely on the responsability and choice of who did. No cop out, no resorting to a scripture to excuse actions, no easy forgiveness.
I think you misunderstood - God is the one throwing the baby in a dumpster.
You got my atention. Explain your point of view, please.
Who is responsible for birth defects? For natural disaster? For sickness? These things aren’t choices and we aren’t responsible for them, they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.
Who is responsible for birth defects?
Biology, genetics and environmental causes. And poor judgment from the parents. So, it depends.
For natural disaster?
I guess… physics, primordially? Followed by stuborness, shortsightness and stupidity of humans?
For sickness?
Virus, bacteria, exposure, malnourishment, and others?
These things aren’t choices […]
A good part is outside our capability to act upon, I will gladly grant you that. But there are parts where we can in fact influence the outcome.
[…] and we aren’t responsible for them, […]
The moment any individual realizes something shoul not be in such a way, that individual can take responsibility to avoid or mitigate it.
[…] they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.
At best, reality is indeferent to what happens to an individual, a species, a planet, a star system or even a galaxy.
We have been setting our course in reality from the moment we achieved sentience and consciousness. We find things cruel, unfair, whatever, because they do not favour us. We’re owed nothing for existing. We take a debt towards each other in helping exist in such reality.
There are no gods nor higher powers to shift blame here. We’re here, now, and we have to deal with it. We can choose to try to make this world better for others or allow it to follow its own devises or even actively make it worse.
Individual agency. The stage is set: write and enact your own play.
It was wrong then - nothing existing is far preferable to this world with all its suffering
Tell me you are a broken human being without saying it.
I’m honestly sad for knowing you take life to such regard but there is more to reality and life than our own small sliver of experience and understanding.
I’m curious why you would define your belief in terms of opposition to one deity in specific when human history is littered with gods, many of whom were huge assholes. How do you feel about, say, Zeus or Mithras or Ahura Mazda? 'Fuck all of ‘em’ is a position I can understand, but ‘Fuck this one in specific and the rest are fine’ just seems a little odd, ya know?
I think more broadly you could say I’m anti-demiurge, I guess I don’t particularly hate the other gods but they’re just jumped up elementals/spirits. Like, whatever, some guy demands to be worshipped in exchange for boons or to bestow curses or whatever. I think he’s an asshole for lording his cool lightning powers over us, but I don’t think he needs to be destroyed for it per se.
Demiurge in the Gnostic sense? Or is there some broader sense I’m not familiar with there?
So… your position is that all gods are real according to their own cosmogony, and one of them in particular has pissed you off but the rest just don’t rise to the level of being worth the effort of hating? My compliments, that’s a pretty interesting position and one I’ve not seen before.
Well, no, my position is that gods could be real but none of them are worth worshiping.
Then, additionally, if there’s some kind of omnipotent and omniscient Creator then it’s evil and I hate it.
Ah, fair enough, that makes sense and I generally agree. I have my own beliefs and ideas about personified deities, but I agree, I dunno why some of these deities are even worshiped given their legacy of evil and assholery, so if they do really exist they should absolutely be opposed.