• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    20 hours ago

    And observations of landfills or unrecycled stockpiles doesn’t vary by location?

    The idea was to try and remove plastic waste that people tend to just throw away without thinking much of it. Lab students don’t exactly take pipets with them and throw away in a ditch. But unfortunately, way too many people just throw away single use plastics like straws, cutlery, cups, “paper plates”, etc.

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      18 hours ago

      I didn’t make any such “observations”, or even claim that it doesn’t vary by location. I’m just pointing out that your approach ignores a lot of much larger plastic masses. It’s ok for identifying some obvious opportunities, but I’d hesitate to call it definitive for the purposes of establishing the most impactful strategy.

      I’m not sure if people’s unmindfulness is responsible for a larger share of waste than indifference, but maybe?

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        17 hours ago

        I’m not ignoring anything. But if you want me to cover every single issue and aspect of various types of trash management, it’s gonna be a god damn university essay, I don’t even think lemmy would allow so many characters in a comment.

        Peoples “unmindfulness” is responsible for every single piece of garbage you see around you. When I walk down the road and see a bag of crisps laying around. That’s because a person just tossed it. And no. I’m not ignoring corporate waste or pollution, criminal or otherwise. But that isn’t the topic right now.

        This specific post was making fun of the straw bans vs other single use plastics that are seemingly fine. straws vs pipets used in labs. And what I said was that pipets are not being littered around every corner of the globe. But straws are. That’s why movements to ban such implements are ongoing. That’s why we have movements to ban single use plastics like straws and cutlery, while a plastic shampoo bottle is still “fair game” since they’re not typically just tossed in nature.

        That doesn’t mean I’m just ignoring everything else. We also didn’t talk about how armed robberies are bad. But I can assure you, I’m not ignoring them, they’re just not the topic at hand.

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          16 hours ago

          Look, all I’m saying is that straws probably aren’t the #1 source of discarded plastic, and it seems like focusing on one thing like that results in more performative than substantive change.

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            15 hours ago

            Ah yes, the good old, “It’s not the #1 problem so why bother doing anything”. It’s that wonderful kind of attitude that simply doesn’t get anything done, ever. Because there’s always a bigger problem.

            The only ones focusing on one thing like plastic straws, are people like you. The rest of us moved on

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              11 hours ago

              Jesus, you presume too much.

              Point to where I said not to do anything. My whole point was not to just stop at straws and find more ways to avoid plastic.

              Maybe spend less energy on literal strawmen.

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                11 hours ago

                I just love how you think I’m presuming too much, only to in the very next sentence assume I think removing plastic straws being the end of the road and final solution.

                And since I according to you, presume too much, did you want me to spend less energy on, literally, making straw-men (plural), like, scare-crows? Or did you mean that I should spend less energy on figuratively, straw-manning.

                I would assume the latter but you are, literally, formulating the former. Either way. I’m not doing either of those things.