I’ve never considered her or put her under any kind of lense, I didn’t know who she was or her story until I stumbled across this post. I don’t care about CEOs in general and couldn’t name any except the openly evil ones.
Nice deflection though. I’m only engaging because your rhetoric frustrated me, when someone goes out of their way to accuse someone of being sexist and start bending logic to defend a woman’s actions not by their merits but for the mere fact that they were performed by a woman, it stands out as sexist.
You’re overcompensating. Was the girl boss comment unnecessary? Possibly, I don’t know if she ever referred to herself as “girl boss” explicitly… It’s irrelevant though, because the meat of the argument is that she literally said “Women, this is my own bias, tend to take more photos and are more visual, and so being able to work with A.I. in a visual medium is fun”.
She was being sexist, and you ignored that and flipped the table and was outraged that the author called her girl boss.
Not only is she suggesting we offload our emotional load to AI, she’s pitching that as a woman empowering move. You should not be defending her, quite the opposite.
I tried to look at old articles to see the sexism you claimed was displayed, which is how I discovered that she was 6 months pregnant when she took the job, but I couldn’t find any. Please correct me and cite some.
What I found is opinion pieces that referenced sexist discourse online and the stock market reaction to her. No shit people are sexist and would have been sexiest in their rhetoric, but that’s not what you claimed, you claimed every headline you could see criticized her for existing as a woman.
You don’t have to defend every woman just because they are women, that’s as sexist as degrading them for the same reason.
At best, she’s a victim of a sexist world who accepted perpetuating the sexist status quo for the sake of her kids, and at worst she’s a terrible parent, but nothing about her story makes her a feminist champion.
The first woman to vote wasn’t a hero, the women who fought for suffrage rights were. The first woman CEO isn’t a hero, she’s just a CEO who happens to be a woman, and she didn’t use her position to set a better precedent for women.
the meat of the argument is that she literally said “Women, this is my own bias, tend to take more photos and are more visual, and so being able to work with A.I. in a visual medium is fun”.
This is the first time you’re bringing any of this up here in this thread with me. “The meat of the argument?” You have got to be joking.
Please correct me and cite some.
I’ve already got enough homework to keep me busy thanks
You don’t have to defend every woman just because they are women
I’m not “defending” her. (“I think this [turn toward AI] sucks” was what I said.) My comment was a criticism of the headline and the tone of this story. Of the media. How could I possibly have made that any clearer?
At best, she’s a victim of a sexist world who accepted perpetuating the sexist status quo for the sake of her kids, and at worst she’s a terrible parent, but nothing about her story makes her a feminist champion.
So. There’s that judgement imperative I was talking about.
Wrap your head around this: I don’t care if she’s a perfect feminist paragon or not. I don’t care if she’s perpetuating the status quo to the approximately the same extent nearly everyone else is. I don’t care if she’s just as disconnected a parent as every other stinking-rich mom or dad in this materialist culture of ours.
And neither should the tech / biz media, or the chattering commentariat.
Unless we’re all going to consistently apply those same questions and judgements to the men who keep getting in front of cameras to flog their tech junk, too.
When was the last time you got so worked up about Altman’s work-life balance? About Zuckerberg’s parenting choices? Is anyone terribly worried that Sundar Pichai isn’t feminist enough?
This is the first time you’re bringing any of this up here in this thread with me. “The meat of the argument?” You have got to be joking.
Not my argument, the article’s. That you dismissed as sexist because of one word you didn’t like.
I’ve already got enough homework to keep me busy thanks
Stay in school!
And neither should the tech / biz media, or the chattering commentariat.
Something you keep insisting is true, and despite responding with long comments, you don’t have the time to Google any evidence of.
When was the last time you got so worked up about Altman’s work-life balance? About Zuckerberg’s parenting choices? Is anyone terribly worried that Sundar Pichai isn’t feminist enough?
I have yet to run into someone defending them as a good parents with that lack of balance as evidence… When you make that comment I’ll make the same argument again.
I’ve never considered her or put her under any kind of lense, I didn’t know who she was or her story until I stumbled across this post. I don’t care about CEOs in general and couldn’t name any except the openly evil ones.
Nice deflection though. I’m only engaging because your rhetoric frustrated me, when someone goes out of their way to accuse someone of being sexist and start bending logic to defend a woman’s actions not by their merits but for the mere fact that they were performed by a woman, it stands out as sexist.
You’re overcompensating. Was the girl boss comment unnecessary? Possibly, I don’t know if she ever referred to herself as “girl boss” explicitly… It’s irrelevant though, because the meat of the argument is that she literally said “Women, this is my own bias, tend to take more photos and are more visual, and so being able to work with A.I. in a visual medium is fun”.
She was being sexist, and you ignored that and flipped the table and was outraged that the author called her girl boss.
Not only is she suggesting we offload our emotional load to AI, she’s pitching that as a woman empowering move. You should not be defending her, quite the opposite.
I tried to look at old articles to see the sexism you claimed was displayed, which is how I discovered that she was 6 months pregnant when she took the job, but I couldn’t find any. Please correct me and cite some.
What I found is opinion pieces that referenced sexist discourse online and the stock market reaction to her. No shit people are sexist and would have been sexiest in their rhetoric, but that’s not what you claimed, you claimed every headline you could see criticized her for existing as a woman.
You don’t have to defend every woman just because they are women, that’s as sexist as degrading them for the same reason.
At best, she’s a victim of a sexist world who accepted perpetuating the sexist status quo for the sake of her kids, and at worst she’s a terrible parent, but nothing about her story makes her a feminist champion.
The first woman to vote wasn’t a hero, the women who fought for suffrage rights were. The first woman CEO isn’t a hero, she’s just a CEO who happens to be a woman, and she didn’t use her position to set a better precedent for women.
This is the first time you’re bringing any of this up here in this thread with me. “The meat of the argument?” You have got to be joking.
I’ve already got enough homework to keep me busy thanks
I’m not “defending” her. (“I think this [turn toward AI] sucks” was what I said.) My comment was a criticism of the headline and the tone of this story. Of the media. How could I possibly have made that any clearer?
So. There’s that judgement imperative I was talking about.
Wrap your head around this: I don’t care if she’s a perfect feminist paragon or not. I don’t care if she’s perpetuating the status quo to the approximately the same extent nearly everyone else is. I don’t care if she’s just as disconnected a parent as every other stinking-rich mom or dad in this materialist culture of ours.
And neither should the tech / biz media, or the chattering commentariat.
Unless we’re all going to consistently apply those same questions and judgements to the men who keep getting in front of cameras to flog their tech junk, too.
When was the last time you got so worked up about Altman’s work-life balance? About Zuckerberg’s parenting choices? Is anyone terribly worried that Sundar Pichai isn’t feminist enough?
Not my argument, the article’s. That you dismissed as sexist because of one word you didn’t like.
Stay in school!
Something you keep insisting is true, and despite responding with long comments, you don’t have the time to Google any evidence of.
I have yet to run into someone defending them as a good parents with that lack of balance as evidence… When you make that comment I’ll make the same argument again.