I mean sure, ignore the protests from earlier this year where millions turned out across the nation, but sure…
And did what? They didn’t disrupt anything. Parades on weekends are good for raising awareness, I’m not going to say they are useless. But they are fundamentally different from the other examples given.
Gotten shot and killed by lowest-bidder wannabe cops, who faced zero consequences. And our wannabe dictator said there would be no consequences for killing protesters. The reality is living conditions aren’t bad enough yet for most people to be willing to risk that.
So as it turns out, violence and fear tactics do work…
I’ve often been surprised at how living in America is perceived by the world. I’ve met a lot of people from all over the world, and while some have actually spent enough time here to understand the good and the bad. The rest who have not seem to believe in the shiny veneer that we export in our movies and television.
We are absolute wage slaves here. We are one missed paycheck from homelessness. But sure, blame the slaves for not overthrowing their owners.
I dont understand the logic though so please help me here. I have lived in the US and do have a good idea of how shitty things are (or were even back then). Things will not improve by inaction and are objectively getting worse. So yes, you risk a lot by acting but if you dont your life will continue to get worse and you’ll end up homeless anyway. Or worse.
No one is coming to save you. You live in the most powerful country in the world. Nobody is going to come in and liberate you. Your only option is to save yourself.
Nobody is claiming it will be easy, simple, or clean. But what other option is left? This is why the rest of us are baffled. Especially since the US has built up the reputation of having a rebellious spirit. Where is that spirit now?
I can make this simple: would you be the first to step in front of the firing squad when you have no idea if others will join you in rushing it?
We are not a united people here.
I know that. No one is saying you as an individual need to do this right now. We are saying you need to organize. I think this is a cultural misunderstanding.
When I say ‘you’ I am not referring to an individual. Im referring to you as a people. Maybe that misunderstanding is evidence of the hyper individualism your country has subtly snuck into your lives that prevents you (again a collective you) from doing so.
What did you think I meant by, “we are not a united people”?
You can’t organize peace with people who idealize a fascist society
Indeed you are correct.
AMD in 1954 Che Guevara actually came up with a speech that explained everything you need to know about the current americans’ ‘rebellious spirit’ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-H5m_BeJoQA&pp=ygUkd2h5IGFtZXJpY2FucyBkbyBub3RoaW5nIGJhZGVtcGFuYWRh0gcJCTAMAYcqIYzv.
(Im going to add that Im baffled that Many people think that wearing a fucking costume is rebellious enough to substantiate any aubstantial positive changes… WTF?!)
I want you to say this same line to a Haitian person in 1804. Or to a Cuban person in 1959. Or to a Russian person in 1918
The amercans indeed are not the healthiest or best paid of all wage slaves om planet Earth today…but their access to spec ops knowledge and to weapons would put most of the world to shame. Heck the average american could put a Hatian person in 1804 or a Cuban pwrson in 1959 to shame with the access to shit they have…and yet…these americans never want to anything about their slavery. 😂🤣
I guess this must be what the americans want seeing as how they never want to substantiate any substantial changes to improve their lives and the lives of others who their mercenaries are currently blowing up as I type this 🤷🏿♂️
I’m so tired of this idea that these sparse, scheduled, legal events are considered protests.
I’m tired of the idea that looting stores and burning public buildings is an effective way to protest.
Most protests in Europe are also legal events. You ask for permit to march through a city. Only in some places rioters started destroying things. So far peaceful protests in Spain forced government to pass housing laws requested by people and call snap elections while all riots in France achieved is curfew.
Spain has a left wing government (the last time I looked at least) they play by the rules it seems (people ask, government provide as it can).
In France the right have sold out the country to the rich, more or less stole the prime ministers seat (after the snap elections it should have gone to the left, surprise surprise it didn’t) , they couldn’t care less about housing prices and so on.
So when you say france only obtained a curfew you show that you don’t understand those two countries political landscapes.
The fight goes on ✊🏼
if you think that spain has a left wing government then you need help.
spain’s government is capitalistic. There will NEVER be left wing capitalism cause its actually impossible.
Left wingedness places humans at the centre and gives each individual human greater abilitiy to say and do what they each individually want with their lives. Left wingedness makes more leaders , and it even turns the workers into leaders. This is why left winged exrremism is called ANARCHY, cause then there are no leaders. Right wingednesses centres the rich and their materials. It makes less leaders. And last time I checked Spain has only one president . This is why right winged extremism is called AUTOCRACY, one leader.
Heck , even wikipedia itself calls you out. on your idiocracy . DOnt even believe anything I just typed - go to wikipedia right now and type in left wing politics and right wing politics and then show me how anything I just typed is wrong… I can wait 🍿🤭
Dude you live in Dreamland.
We other people actually try to change things by, you know, actually doing something.
No need to vomit wordsalads at me 😁😂🤣
…ok… and what exactly do you other people do? …
haant changed shit…so…who cares?
Well we had No Kings protests. Police have shot and killed our citizens in the process of that. In my area, during a protest, police grabbed, dragged, and shot a protestor point blank in the eye with a less than lethal gun (he’s blind now)
“guys, we went on a permitted march in favor of slightly less shitty authoritarian neoliberals, what more do you want?”
Nobody was shot and killed for No Kings. What the people were shot and killed by ICE for was direct action of rapid response against ICE.
“If your oppressors approved of the ‘protest’ ? Congratulations. I hope you enjoyed your parade” 😂🥳
Yeah, that’s the thing about a protest, it doesn’t help unless you have a structure to harness this energy. When police started shooting at protesters in Ukraine in 2014, several political and activist organisations banded together with people, and together they used this fear and anger to resist and ultimately win.
Well political activist organizations were already banded together going to No Kings protests when those citizens were shot, for some reason we’re not winning yet
I am very plugged in on the American politics, and yet I have no idea which ones you can mean. This means that either those organisations are small enough so they don’t even break the local social media barrier, or they were so quiet after that, they didn’t even try to do anything on any public level.
Two people were executed on the streets by the regime, and the reaction was less severe than when a shitty musician was shitty.its likely its too small to even get bigger in the news, also because conservatives controls most of the MSM as well, it will hit the news, its all “look what trump did that make him look stupid” gaffe everyday.
i noticed after the protests, people just went home like no news after that, they treat it like they were working a shift a store, 8hrs here, 8 hrs there and then done. also these are Planned protests, so you get what you “paid for” and likely kept on a tight leash by the DNC and MSMs to not escalate further. it allows them to have release valve when something schumer-hakeems and congrees does something terrible voting with the GOP.
exactly. These peaceful protests rarely ever substantiate substantial changes. The literal largest per capita protest in american history didnt do shit.
What does this tell the americans?
That a protest should be a tactic, an action towards an immediate goal, and not a goal within itself.
And maybe, protests do very little in America because ruling class aren’t afraid of the public that much
We had a similar per capita rate of participation in No Kings as France has had in its recent demonstrations. But the US has a much lower population density over a much larger land area, so the protests appeared smaller despite having millions more people in the streets.
…ok… and did this ‘protest’ substantiate substantial changes? …WAYMENT! 😂
Stop trying to make substantiate happen!
I substantiate a “No”
These threads are full of useful idiots and propagandists shitting on Americans.
I’m so bored by this nonsense. At least get more clever if you’re going to try to divide all of us.
The way I see it, we’re all in this together. Even the Russian people are my ally if they oppose fascism and corruption. These are my people… All people who want a better world.
But sure, enjoy your indulgences if this thread is your thing. May your lives be as short as Trump’s should be.
Yes, Russians and Americans are definitely allies now. That’s part of the problem.
Russian government ≠ Russian people
the biggest lie ever told.
People always say 'belgh blehg blerg bleg governement ≠ belgh blehg blerg vleg people . People have gotta stop spoiuting this bullshit line cause Im too tored of it. Carlin said it once:
"Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fck Hope. Because if it is really just the fault of the politicians then where are all the other bright people of conscience? Where are all the bright, honest, intelligent Americans ready to step in and save the nation and lead the way? We don’t have people like that in this country. Everybody’s at the mall, scratchin’ his ass, pickin’ his nose, takin’ his credit card out of his fanny pack and buyin’ a pair of sneakers with lights in them. So, I have solved this little political dilemma for myself in a very simple way. On Election Day, I stay home. I don’t vote. Fck ’em! Fck ’em! I don’t vote. Two reasons. Two reasons I don’t vote. First of all, it’s meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. This shit they shuffle around every four years? Pfft! Pfft! It doesn’t mean a fcking thing. And secondly, I don’t vote because I believe if you vote you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know. They say, ‘Well, if you don’t vote you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up, well, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem. You voted them in. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand…who did not vote…who did not vote…who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with. So, I know that a little later on this year you’re gunna have another one of those really swell presidential elections that you like so much [Bill Clinton v. Bob Dole]. You enjoy yourselves; it’ll be a lot of fun. I’m sure as soon as the election is over your country will improve immediately. As for me, I’ll be home on that day, doing essentially the same thing as you. The only difference is, when I get finished jerking it, I’m gunna have a little something to show for it, folks.” – George Carlin
These are Russians and Ukranians from Russian and Ukranianian homes, businesses, schools, soldiers who instead of just saying “Fuck it” and conscientiously objecting in jail in the millions and millions together in brother and sister hood choose to do their fucking parastic bitches biddings . How long do you think this war would go on for if only the politicians threw their bloody parasrtic asses at each other? … I heard the same said anout the needless Iran-Lebanon-Yemen war…
Heck even the last surviving WWI veteran talked about this: He said something along fhe lines of: “I still feel about the war now as I did then, that I wished that these fucking politicoans were the omes who picked up the guns and artilerry and blew up each other.”
The Common People outnumber the politicians, the billionaires , the bribed mercenary class traiitor pigs in the hundreds and even thousands. The Common People can clearly ALWAYS come together and absolutely de-fucking-molish the fuxk out of all these war mongerers and create numerous societies that are created by the Common People and work for The Common People, Societies That Works For The Workers !..
…The people choose not to do this… Every second …of everyday… Why they choose not to do this? Meh! Ive asked a couple and its always bullshit reasons here and there. Heck, Ive met some people who acrually enjoy being exploited like this.
The people indeed ARE their government . The people at any moment could substantiate substantial effort to permenanently change their society for the better , to substantially change society to favor them and our hard work . We have the dream , we have the hands , we have the numbers… but we dont have the courage (or even the thinking capacity it seems) . Instead we would rather just be complacent and let these parasites throw us at each other in needless air raids and invasions or shoot at each other over a couple thousand dollars in random gang wars here and there…
Fuck outta here with this garbage line.
4 word input to 7 paragraph output are you an LLM 😭
even better Im a ML, Marxist Leninist!
Damn, I would have fucking preferred an LLM
BS Americans were getting shot execution style protesting ice. Do we need more protest and civil disobedience? YES but this is garbage
Ewww civil disobedience?!
“Nobody should self-immolate for Gaza. Symbolic acts only have an effect when your enemies are humans and ours are not . Instead if youre already sure you want out, you should… ??? idf veterans in your local area.”
You think symbolic acts of civil disobedience will make a difference? Actually , you know what? I want the americans to keep on and keep on doing it. Ha! Theyre already doing this and they did it during the Civil Rights riots (my favorite part of the Civil Rights Riots were how nowadays non-White americams are still NOT treated like humans and STILL not reparated). Let us see what changes for for the americans in the next 50 years… 🍿🤭
Serbia just overthrew their dictator with protests and civil disobedience
…ok… and now let us watch as the Serbian bourgeoisie install ANOTHER dictator. Or install a placeholder who gives the Serbian people a few treats here and there and then their successor … takes all those treats away 🤭🍿😏
Media in US is run by trump’s friends and unfortunately foreign news is relying on them to report.
March’s NoKings was the biggest protest in US history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size#List
And it had almost no coverage internally or in foreign media.
…and it acheived fucking nothing haha
Once again proving that non-violent resistance aint shit. The Algerians, Cubans , Koreans , Burkinabe, and Vietnamese send their regards
The Cubans are escaping to Florida instead of revolting, Korea has had multiple visibly corrupt presidents and I still haven’t heard of violent protests… Not sure those are the best examples.
…Ah Yup yup yup every excuse in the book.
Instead of talking about Cubans from 1959 …you talk about Cubans today. Bro IDGAF abou Cubans today. Bro Cuba is no longer a socialist state. Have you seen the rrforms? Have you seen the oil embargos effects on Cuba since 2 years ago up until today? Clearly you havent so why am I even asking?
Instead of talking about Koreans from 1910-53 …you talk about SOUTH KOREA TODAY …when Im talking ALL of the Korean Penninsula from decades ago.
BUT Yup yup yup! Keep up the excuses . Never use historicals examples to give you directions as to what the americams should do today YUP YUP YUP.
As if these regimes were not totalitarian from beginning and did not serve imperialist interests of soviet pseudosocialism. Protecting the spirit of revolution to eventually become corpocracy that is even stronger capitalist than the capitalist-democratic counterparts.
Im STILL waiting…
Im STILL waiting… You can just DM if youre not an adult enough to publicly reply lol
Im STILL waiting… What’s wrong? You were talking out your ass and now you cant back it up with ANY evidence?! 🤭
Im still waiting…
To be fair, its like a 2 day drive for me to get to the Capitol, and gas alone would cost like $1k.
hitch hike?
Similar happening in DC would result in a rapid spike in ICE detentions and missing person reports.
well at least it would substantiate substantial changes …so… 🤷🏿♂️
If the americans are A-OK with the status quo allow tjem to keep doing what theyre currently doimg and let us see how much positive changes they bring about.
well at least it would substantiate substantial changes …so… 🤷🏿♂️
It wouldn’t. But even if it did, you are endorsing telling people to enter into a meat grinder.
If the americans are A-OK with the status quo allow tjem to keep doing what theyre currently doimg and let us see how much positive changes they bring about.
They aren’t A-OK, which is why they’re finally going to vote in numbers. They’re also petulantly stupid though and are only reactively voting now that we have had shit completely fall apart under Trump.
It wouldn’t. But even if it did, you are endorsing telling people to enter into a meat grinder.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”
“Nobody should self-immolate for Gaza. Symbolic acts only have an effect when your enemies are humans and ours are not . Instead if youre already sure you want out, you should… ??? idf veterans in your local area.”
ah yes! Voting will make a substantial permanent difference! … 🤭
I did not say it would. At least at this point I’m inclined to think we’re fucked. Voting in better government at this point is a opiate we can take while the world withers on its death bed.
Maybe it would have before. Doesn’t really matter anymore though.
it does matter , it all matters. Its just that the majrity of humanity has decided that it is OK to just vote in favor of the withering away of humanity on its death bed instead of just standing up and fighting for the species’ continuuation as their ancestors did.
The continuation of the species is not a moral good.
honestly , youre correct sadly :/
Im just gonna post this here : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rpicpifk15U&pp=ygUWdGhlIG1hdHlyIHdpbGwgbm90IGRpZQ%3D%3D
To anyone who knows why I posted it and knows ‘The Truth’? I commend you 🫂 🫡
To anyone who iis too young or naïve to understand? Hopefully youll understand one day…
I’m not clicking on your YouTube video link. That’s so 2014.
Tell me what it is.
its an ‘important’ song to those who know ‘The Truth’.











