shout out to the lemmy developers for not making us be stuck on the other site
shout out to mastodon devs for making us have a better life than on Twitter
shout out to the pixelfed devs for allowing a actual photography platform to exist
shout out to the peertube devs for helping us not be stuck on youtube until the end of time
ETA: Shout out to the server operators who make the stuff be done
shoutout to mbin and friendica devs when
shout out to mbin for making new ideas
shout out to friendica for making the facebook alternative
Shout!
shout!
let it all out!
Thank you to all the developers and instance administrators! 💓
(Shame on those who stir up controversy for ideological reasons, seeking the worst in people who dedicate their time to improving the technology that enables the use of an open social web! 👿🤬)
amen 🙏
Thanks, Lemmy folks! I have been, and intend to continue to be, intending to put up a server.
I’m sorry, in advance, for what is going to happen to all your hard work, as Reddit craters and all the oligarch bots start coming here to manipulate the populace / control the narrative.
As I’ve been saying since Usenet and Slashdot; it was good while it lasted.
They’re already here. If someone tries to fight with you unreasonably, leave a clarifying comment and let it go. They’re not as prolific here, but if you spend any time in news or politics communities, you’ve seen them.
Good callout, thank you! A tale as old as 56k: don’t feed the trolls.
Dont forget the instance operators who actually keep the servers running. Donations keep instances up.
oh yes your right il edit my post to include them
- Lemmy, Piefed, PyLova, Mbin
- All the apps (and there are quite a few)
- All the alternatives UIs (Photon, Blorp, old, etc.)
Thank you everyone
whoever downvoted this, is the CEO of reddit
Its because of Lemmy being built by pro-genocide, pro-authoritarian, anti-trans communist Republicans.
but hopfully we could fork it and probably have a better time
Tankies aren’t republicans. And I am pretty sure they’re not pro-genocide. Or pro-israel, for that matter.
The ones here on the fediverse support Trump and Putin, the ones in Beijing provided the guns and funding for the October music festival attack which began the war on Gaza. Image attached:
China did not begin the genocide of Palestine. It was on going long before Oct 7 and was started by Israel.
LOL. Dude, you are either disingenuous or clueless and I can’t decide which.
Being anti-Zionist isn’t being antisemitic. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Democrats have been just as bad, if not more in favor of Zionism as the republicans have been.
But we are changing the party.
All aid to Gaza immediately ended upon Trump entering office, and Trump bragged about delivering 2,000 LBS bombs that the Biden admin withheld.
And if you can, send some money their way. This place runs on donations.
oh yes you’re right
Well, not all of them. Some of them are a stain on this earth.
Let’s keep it respectful.
Respecting Tankies? You might as well be asking me to pay respects to Adolf Hitler, fat chance mate.
We get it, you hate tankies a weird amount.
LOL.
You might want to take a closer look at the Lemmy dev before getting too excited.
There was some drama with piefed dev too recently. Seems like loads of fediverse projects are run by weirdos.
Most cool things are the product of weirdos.
Dude is a full tilt tankie, that’s not being a weirdo it’s being a fascist.
We get it, you were educated in the US.
Yeah, that’s kind of the sad flipside of things. Seems like social media has an issue with attracting weirdos to its places of power.
what happened
People are upset when the find out the Lemmy lead devs are like straight up authoritarian communists.
Mostly Third-Way-Reddit-liberal refugees who don’t realize they’re not progressive just because Fox News calls thier party “radical socialist leftists” constantly, these are the same people screeching that America only votes for leftists for Senate some places because there wasn’t another choice and that what b the country really wanted was moderate Dems.
Also the Piefed devs; didn’t they get caught hardcoding a block list into Piefed or something? I know there was a lemmy front end that did that (Tesseract; I made the list yay!) but not long after that Piefed got caught doing something similar but I don’t recall exactly what it was; all I remember was that I decided I no longer trust Piefed and I won’t use it. Shit I’ll try and search it and see if I can come up with a better answer
Piefed dev for involved in a disagreement about something, made a post explaining how correct they were, and deleted responses from the b other parties involved.
I don’t remember the details but it’s not constructive to a healthy community.
Piefed dev for involved in a disagreement about something, made a post explaining how correct they were, and deleted responses from the b other parties involved.
I don’t remember the details but it’s not constructive to a healthy community.
Rimu made a platform to be as hostile as possible those who don’t fit his image and bans anyone who questions it. But since he’s not the Lemmy devs people here fawn over him as he is worse than anything the lemmy devs have done.
so is MBin or Pylova safe from this controversy
Yes.
Pylova is a mostly pointless reactionary fork that came out of some drama perpetuated by a bunch of crybullies.
So it’s cringe, but not necessarily controversial. But also doesn’t really contribute anything of value.
As someone who uses both, they both have their place. I still use Lemmy from time to time too.
How many Rimuminbi do you get paid to write this?
PyLova has many features PieFed doesn’t, to the point PieFed is having to copy them poorly such as allowing more than one image in a post.
You’re only saying that because you’re a butthurt .social mod who got banned from every leftist instance. Now that’s cringe.
See what I mean? Look how fast they show up to push these wacky narratives and call people paid shills.
Piefed is fine too. The drama there is a nothing-burger. The tankies are just pissed off that Piefed has better moderation so they can’t troll Piefed servers the way they would like to
Lemmy devs aren’t communists, they’re state capitalists. The difference is they support the state, and Karl Marx said it’s not communism if there’s a state.
Piefed didn’t hardcode a blocklist, that was a hoax. There’s an auto-federation tool that only admins can use, and it has optional limits on what communities it auto-imports. People took screenshots of that code and lied that it was a blocklist.
I’m pretty sure that was Carl Marks.
Karl Marx understood the difference between communism and communists.
Piefed is fine. Otherwise, PyLova is a fork by a different dev team.
Fortunately, piefed’s controversial feature was a checkbox in the settings that an admin can easily toggle on/off, unlike Tesseract that had a hidden hardcoded list. And as you are probably aware, our .zip admin gives us users the autonomy to block stuff ourselves, so that wasn’t really that big of an issue.
PieFed only adds those checkboxes (multiple times now) after huge complaints from users.
The dev is an authoritarian liberal who thinks the best way to run the Fediverse is their way and everyone must accept that.
Oh so same as every other instance.
It’s not a secret and it’s not hardcoded.
https://join.piefed.social/2026/08/13/what-piefed-blocks-out-of-the-box-and-how-to-unblock-it/
https://join.piefed.social/2026/08/13/what-piefed-blocks-out-of-the-box-and-how-to-unblock-it/
During the initial setup process there is a series of messages printed on the screen: “Added banned instance xyz, added banned instance abc, etc” followed by “Manage banned instances at /admin/federation.” The list of initially defederated (banned) instances is:
‘anonib.al’, ‘lemmygrad.ml’, ‘gab.com’, ‘rqd2.net’, ‘exploding-heads.com’, ‘hexbear.net’, ‘hilariouschaos.com’, ‘threads.com’, ‘noauthority.social’, ‘pieville.net’, ‘links.hackliberty.org’, ‘poa.st’, ‘freespeechextremist.com’, ‘bae.st’, ‘nicecrew.digital’, ‘detroitriotcity.com’, ‘gregtech.eu’, ‘pawoo.net’, ‘shitposter.club’, ‘spinster.xyz’, ‘catgirl.life’, ‘gameliberty.club’, ‘yggdrasil.social’, ‘beefyboys.win’, ‘brighteon.social’, ‘cum.salon’, ‘wizard.casa’, ‘maga.place’, ‘lemmychan.org’View related source code. As the message suggests, admins can go to the Federation part of the Admin area to change which instances you federate with at any time.
I mean technically not hard coded, but when it’s the default it becomes the standard. Of course the biggest issue is it’s only viable to admins not the users so
🙃
Well, the lemmy devs are transphobic and the piefed dev Rimu is a bit of a jerk with additional accusations of a censorship list after a huge blowup surrounding a front-end called tesseract. There’s other posts about it there during that same time frame.
It’s a big reason I switched to quokka.au as it uses a fork of piefed called PyLova which I find to be stable and good and the developer is way nicer.
Edit: to be more clear, Tesseract was developed by someone else and that person snuck a secret censorship list into their project. While Rimu’s filter was only slightly less problematic, it had a checkbox at least, it was very unclear what it actually did and caused a huge (well deserved) fuss.
Wow, that dude is an actual moron lol
I’ve seen the accusation about transphobia before, but never seen a link. In the link you provide there is a lot of talk about transphobia. Some ragebating and people saying one of the devs is a transphobe. But I don’t see a dev saying something transphobic in the first 50 posts I read. I am a communist. I left .world for .ml because of them blocking hexbear. I do however also find transphobia highly problematic
You can literally see the screenshot where they say being transgender is actually a bourgeoisie conspiracy. Like full on denying trans people’s lived experiences for thousands of years, and in the same breath pretending people like Elon and JK Rowling aren’t pushing transphobia.
There’s a screen shot of what Nutomic said in the post I linked.
Nah, I know a bunch of the people on that ban list and they all spread the hoax claiming that Piefed has a hardcoded block list.
See, the censorship list you’re talking about doesn’t exist. It just blocked auto-import by admins of communities with certain words in the name. So it only affected admins, not users. If you’re not an admin, it didn’t affect you. I’m an admin, I unchecked the box because I knew what I was doing.
Well if I’m wrong about how that list worked then I apologize but Rimu also supposedly took code from the fork and failed to attribute it until he was called out about that too. It wasn’t only the blocking thing that upset me, it was also the code misappropriation and the childish ban spree.
They’re Tankies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
You probably want to avoid their instances like lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.ml unless you like to root for the tanks in the Tianamen square massacre.
oh no
but i hope that someone who isnt rooting for world war 3, is probably gonna fork it
So a few corrections:
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Tankies aren’t a bad thing, and it’s a nazi dogwhistle as pointed out by your link.
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Being a ‘Tankie,’ isn’t a bad thing, it’s being anti-nazi. The Term was invented by nazis, to criticize the soviet union crushing a nazi uprising with tanks, barely a decade after they won WWII.
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The tanks in Tiannamen square were the good guys. Objectively so. Maybe don’t root for the CIA?
Please be smarter than you are. The people that own every aspect of your life are obviously going to lie to you to keep you under their ownership. It takes very little to debunk their lies.
The sources for the blog post in point number 3 are pretty spotty. They quote Western media like the Washington Post or a former Australian official without giving the proper links or citations. The citations to some “Western” sources like Amnesty International are there but these sources are only brought in so the authors can get nitpicky about their word choices. The only solid source I could find was the WikiLeaks source from the US embassy, but that doesn’t contradict the massacre narrative because the wire could have been sent before the violence peaked. The more substantive claims rely on YouTube videos or other blog posts for their sources.
I’m not trying to be hostile by saying this; I’m willing to hear you out. But I will need a far higher standard of rigour before I’m willing to take any of these ideas seriously.
Thank you for being open minded. Here is a much better sourced article: https://canadianpatriot.org/2021/08/20/the-comprehensive-tiananmen-square-massacre-hoax-dossier/ for the Wikileaks cable, no. It was sent after. https://peds-ansichten.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/1989-07-12_Lilley_Gallo_Tiananmen_WikiLeaks.pdf
this is literal misinformation
Be more specific, and please link explicit examples with sources, instead of using thought terminating phrases that your owner taught you when something clashes with their programming.
just duckduckgo it
1: the word “tankie” was made by reformist communistsm not nazis
2: you have a million pieces of evidence about the tanks killing normal people
3: and no, Democracy is a real thing, and capitalism can be regulated with rules (Genius for your chicken strips brain, but not for me), most of the EU is an example
4: there is no thought in communism, communism is the most vague thing on earth, it cannot pair with democracy since it’s so vague
your odor lingers on
the word “tankie” was made by reformist communistsm not nazis
Answered in the First link, calling the CGRB ‘reformist communists’ is the same as calling nazis ‘reformist socialists’ because they have socialist in the name.
you have a million pieces of evidence about the tanks killing normal people
No, you don’t. In fact, you don’t have a single one, because that was never the claim for Tiannamen square. The tanks sheltered the soldiers from gunfire during the rebellion. This is answered in the second link.
and no, Democracy is a real thing,
Correct, and all forms of socialism have democracy built in, as socialism is democracy applied to the economy.
and capitalism can be regulated with rules (Genius for your chicken strips brain, but not for me), most of the EU is an example
The same EU that uses slave labor for most of its wealth? [1]
Regulated capitalism still requires exploitation in order to function, because it is still capitalism, which is exploitative by nature.
there is no thought in communism
There’s more thought in communism than there is in capitalism, as communism is based on the scientific method, and capitalism is built on the idea some people are born better than others. [2]
your odor lingers on
I hope you realize your place and the fact you will never be a capitalist. Education is free and easy these days.
Sweet, fresh name for the blocklist.
That’s sad that you have so much potential[1][2][3], but then blindly and stupidly believe everything the American government tells you to believe when it comes to non-white and non-western people. The links will still be available for you when you decide to grow past your limitations and your owner’s education.
Tankie was made by leftists to describe authcoms support for the Soviets after they used tanks on a student protest in Hungary.
This is incorrect, but common misinformation. https://www.idcommunism.com/2016/10/truth-and-lies-about-socialism-on-60th.html
Aww it’s a little CowBee, here to spread more misinformation.
For someone that seemingly understands how western media has lied about their much less controversial enemies, one has to wonder why you’re supporting the same people that lied about WMDs in Iraq, with an equally ridiculous line of logic that isn’t supported by pretty much any part of the world outside the west.
False:
- “Tankie” was coined by orthodox communists to describe and criticize party members who supported the Soviet Union’s use of military tanks to brutally crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956. And, since you really love sources,
The term “tankie” was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie 2. The Tiannamen Square protests are led by a vast majority of students. Reading the article you cited, it states: “…and are clear that the “protesters” (rioters) initiated the deadly violence in Beijing (none of which occurred in Tiananmen Square itself).” You can see that this mofo denies the massacre happening because it literally didn’t happen in the Square (true, but a non-sequitur). Secondly, that the protestors initiated the violence. The protests were peaceful, until the Chinese government declared martial law and ordered thousands of People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops into Beijing. 3. Sure. The article is fucking misleading. Let’s assume it is right, and even then, your (3) is yet again a non-sequitur: because the protestors initiated the violence does not make the massacre justified.
Hi, my two sources directly answer your CIA propaganda and debunk it.
Thanks for proving your illiteracy.
thank you for proving that you supported a actual massacre and supporting ethnic cleansing by the russian government
There was no ethnic cleansing. https://www.idcommunism.com/2016/10/truth-and-lies-about-socialism-on-60th.html
Hi, yes. One of your sources, Hampton Think, is a leftist “proletariat” (self-described; on Hampton Think’s about page). They are an open platform with no fact checking, so:
- Not only are you citing a leftist source, which, saying this by itself, is an ad hominem
- And they have no fact-checking or peer review
- You are using it to justify anti-capitalist and pro-socialist ideologies. This is circular logic; using anti-capitalist cherry-picked proof to reinforce your anti-capitalist ideology. Addendum: What do you think about “In defense of Communism”, your second source? Yeah. Give me some real sources next time.
Addendum:
My bad for using the r-word for offended folks; it was in the heat of the moment
Cool, the paper I linked specifically has sources for all of its claims.
For your 3rd point, look to the world right now. Congrats, its worse than the any socialist country ever was.
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