I saw a toot from someone who was searching for Iocaine and only wanted to partake in discussion involving Iocaine.
A fictional poison from The Princess Bride, and possibly some small tech projects inspired by the same.
MAN IN BLACK: What you do not smell is called iocaine powder. It is odorless, tasteless, dissolves instantly in liquid, and is among the more deadly poisons known to man.
Inconceivable.
They should have used that against the damn Yedi in Ep1 instead of the obvious smelly white gas.
It’s software for trapping AI scrapers. They get served paragraphs of gibberish created from public domain works which keeps them occupied and potentially poisons them. It’s very cheap for the backend to run.
What the fuck is a toot in this context
Tweets are to Twitter as Toots are to mastadon
On Bluesky they’re called skeets. People who call it X sometimes say Xeets.
Mastodon posts!
I believe a toot is what you call a small line of snortable drug powder.
Toot toot
In that context, I was referring to this iocaine.
Ah I was wondering if you’d find this thread. Looking into it now its no doubt a cool project when searching previously I kept running into articles about princess bride.
Unfortunately I have nothing to host on the internet but I wonder it could be paired with something that traps the clanker in the maze with a proof of work in between each page. That way they are ingesting poison and working for it. I get a lot of joy from the idea of a swarm of bots stuck in an infinite maze.
Thank you for creating Iocaine.
Ah I was wondering if you’d find this thread
I did! It was lucky I found it so soon, I usually do a search once or twice a week - and it just happened I did one of those yesterday.
previously I kept running into articles about princess bride
That’s normal, iocaine’s name is from the Princess Bride, after all - and the book and the film are much better known than my software (as they should be).
Unfortunately I have nothing to host on the internet but I wonder it could be paired with something that traps the clanker in the maze with a proof of work in between each page. That way they are ingesting poison and working for it. I get a lot of joy from the idea of a swarm of bots stuck in an infinite maze.
The ingested poison doesn’t do much, it’ll get discarded before training. So if you have nothing to put behind iocaine, I don’t think it’s worth it to run it. It can generate endless amounts of garbage, yeah, and will tie up some crawler resources too, yup, but it also costs you bandwidth and CPU & RAM you otherwise wouldn’t need to spend (since there’s nothing behind it, there’s no “more expensive” endpoint iocaine is taking a hit for). I don’t think that’s a good trade. As for Proof of Work: most bots won’t bother, and for the few that do… the cost/benefit ratio is still bad if there’s nothing behind iocaine.
I wonder if you’ve put any thought into this. I’m just.a layman.
So we assume the ingested data is accepted by ai company but its filtered for legitimacy. Is that human or AI. Either way that had to be bypassed I’m not sure how big of a block of text they analyses but the coherent text needs to exceed this and the web context needs to some how reinforce this.
Is this possible?
Is that human or AI.
As far as I know, it’s mostly incredibly underpaid human labor.
Is this possible?
Possible? Most certainly. The trouble is, we have absolutely no way to know, so the best we can do is… guess, hope, and pray. Preparing even one page of plausible looking text is hard - there’s a reason LLMs require powerful GPUs. Generating an infinite amount of plausible looking pages is even harder. That’s why I believe it is not worth the effort to poison them - it costs too much on our side, and we can’t verify if it works.
On top of that, the more plausible it looks, the more likely it is to lead a human visitor astray, should they accidentally find themselves in the maze. Right now, if a human looks at the iocaine output, it is clearly garbage. The bots don’t care, and the programs and/or people who need to verify it, will either have to go through a massive trove of junk, or throw away everything scraped from the entire domain (in both cases, mission accomplished: LLMs didn’t get to the juicy data they wanted).
misspelled cocaine?
low key cocaine? idk
Yeah I was like “isn’t that the stuff they get from the drug store to turn into cocaine in A Scanner Darkly?”
But no I think they called that “solarcaine” if I recall correctly
