Honestly, that statement isn’t very libertarian of them
what are you talking about? Libertarians have traditionally been open borders. Libertarians want less government on every issue at every time. You can’t have an immigration control enforcement without a huge state.
mmm. been a while since i saw a principled stance from libertarians. i missed it.
Look here, obvious Russian troll. Stop discouraging people from voting by… providing an objective, fact-based critique of the political party that people think will fix everything.
That’s right. You heard me. Go back to Russia instead of supporting Republicans by not supporting Democrats enough. Either you’re 100% with us, or you’re 110% against us.
/s
Honestly without the /s I would have thought you were serious. I see people call things like Biden expanding ICE concentration camps “Russian propaganda” all the time.
I’ve literally had people say that I was being urealistic by expecting Biden to not bomb kids. It’s truely horrific
Cr…critical support… for the libertarian party…??? 🤮
There’s one good libertarian and it’s Jesse Ventura
Ventura is not now and never has been a Libertarian.
I had heard the name but hadn’t known anything about him until recently. I watched Hassan’s interview with him. That man both impresses and confuses the fuck out of me.
All libertarians are confusing. They’re a weird amalgamation of absolutely no political knowledge while still having thought a lot more about politics than the average joe schmo. They’re somehow capable of perceiving many faults in the current system, but not of thinking one step ahead.
Then sometimes they’re just fascists
On a sufficient timescale, most libertarians tend to become either become fascists or communists. Just something I’ve noticed
Or they turn into sovereign citizens and become completely incomprehensible
The way I like to think about it is conservatives are dumb and proud of it. Libertarians think they’re smarter than everyone else because they’ve arrived at a political conclusion nobody holds because it makes no sense and they are too dumb to realize that.
It’s not a matter of intelligence. It’s arguing from first principle that capitalism is the solution to its own internal contradictions.
That said, there are libertarians who aren’t as concerned with the economics side of it. They want a small government because they don’t want the government to interfere with gay rights, gun rights and that sort of thing.
I’d say Jesse Ventura falls into the latter category. Not sure if he still identifies as a libertarian by the way. He seems more like a progressive liberal these days, which I guess he always kind of was.
And once in a blue moon you get someone like Jesse where it seems like it’s just a stop in their travel towards some sort of leftism. If only we got him to play modded Hearts of Iron. Kaiserreich could set him right. Or very very wrong. 50/50 gamble
I’ve been here before (GWOT)
It’s like when I met a nazi at a pro-palestine protest back in '14
If ICE takes their masks off the Flock cameras will ID them and report their outstanding warrants.
We don’t want that, do we?
I dont want there to be an ICE agent or FLOCK camera at all.
OK, we’ll compromise,how about a data center in your neighborhood?
How many nonbinary drone pilots will it fund?
A couple of these should do it.
TBF though, there is at least a couple uses I can think of for something like this that isn’t violence.
First one I came up with was sports coverage - if a fleet of these were deployed to track say a mountain bike race, they could assign one to each cyclist. Same for any other event where people are moving quickly through a wooded area.
Even for SAR, being able to follow a person running through a bunch of obstacles is important if for instance that person is leading the drone to a casualty. The person can then remain with the victim while the drone can return and report the exact location to rescue crews.
There’s probably more but that’s the first two I thought of.
The warrants matter only if they’re acted upon
By THIS administration??? Good luck. It’s a badge of honor here.
Exactly my point
Ah yes “defund the police” again. How has that worked out in recent election cycles?
I wish Republicans were this committed to infighting.
Ah yes, infighting is when the left doesn’t want racists, rapists, murderers and thieves preventing us from organizing.
I agree, why defund the police when you could disarm and disband them? Just defunding is clearly way too conservative for US voters.
Can you believe that after the largest & longest series of sustained demonstrations in world history (against police) in 2020, the Dems ran a pro-police candidate in ‘24? I know, it’s sordid. No wonder they lost…
Ah yes. I remember that, when radical anarchist Kamala “fuck the feds” Harris said she’d defund the police. cost her the whole election.
“Hurrrrm uhhh hehe it seems to me that the massive political goal of dismantling the guardforce of capital in the imperial core wasn’t accomplished in the span of one electoral cycle, so I must beg the question, why do you do anything?” - You, a person who does not believe water can boil since it does not immediately do so when placed upon a stove.
You are genuinely an idiot. This massive blue wave comes on the back of people realising ICE is still around, just like Bidens victory did. Everyone and their mom is shitting their ass about ICE being around, so it seems making demands of politicians is an infinitely better method of creating political momentum than just rolling over.
The genocide in Gaza led to Kamala Harris losing so hard that the Empires continued support for that same genocide turned Texas blue in the next election.
Watch it turn red again if the new Democrats down South turn out to be zionists as well.“Infighting”: A socialist daring to critique capitalists in power
Not “infighting”: Doing everything possible to rig the primary - or just not have one at all, have cops beat the shit out of your voting base when they don’t support your foreign policy, then tell them to shut the fuck up and vote for the massively unpopular candidate you’ve forced upon them, while proudly declaring you’re not going to pursue any of the voting bases policy goals.
It’s not “infighting” if the criticism is directed at the imperialist uniparty.
The Democrats putting their own spin on the same agenda doesn’t somehow mean they have a different one.
Ah yes “defund the police” again. How has that worked out in recent election cycles?
What? The police have had no positive material impact in Amerika ever. The police and ICE have done horrible things to people, SPECIFICALLY people of colour for decades with NO FUCKING CONSEQUENCES
decades
I think at this point, centuries is the more accurate term.
It’s really easy to avoid infighting if you just have no consistent principles or morals that might cause disagreement.
👆 person who cares more about the color of the politician’s tie than what policies they’re enacting
one thing the fascists have understood all too well is you don’t change your policies to be more electable, you mold society so your policies become electable. unfortunately the democrats (and other liberals) will never understand this because they are addicted to the status quo, whatever it may be.
Well, they aren’t police, so this is disingenuous and in bad faith. They are cosplay soldiers brown shirting it up.
We have a police problem and we have an ICE problem. Also, Police reform isn’t insane to ask for, but when you conflate it with another adjacent group it gets far more complicated.
I know the folds on your brain aren’t deep enough to make that distinction, consider donating your brain to science. I imagine NASA would love to study that frictionless surface you got sliding around in there.
