Red-herring refers to a deliberately misleading clue. Gish gallop might be closer, it’s when you make a bunch of claims at once to overwhelm your opponent without regard to the validity of the claims. It’s not quite willful ignorance either. Hmmm…
I love pedantic stuff like this so I’m pretty sure I will be thinking about this the rest of the day now… thanks lol
The invincible ignorance fallacy,[1] also known as argument by pigheadedness,[2] is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion.
Whatever it is, it’s pretty common to the point that I can predict the entire conversation:
Me: [Posts links to numerous transphobic tweets by Rowling].
Them: That’s not transphobic, she’s just saying [superficial bad-faith reading of the tweet in question and a statement about transgender people being “too sensitive”]
If there’s not a term for this, someone needs to coin one lol
I used to engage, but I’ve learned from my tenure on reddit to recognize the pattern and that there’s no point
Red-herring refers to a deliberately misleading clue. Gish gallop might be closer, it’s when you make a bunch of claims at once to overwhelm your opponent without regard to the validity of the claims. It’s not quite willful ignorance either. Hmmm…
I love pedantic stuff like this so I’m pretty sure I will be thinking about this the rest of the day now… thanks lol
Invincible Ignorance Fallacy maybe?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy
The invincible ignorance fallacy,[1] also known as argument by pigheadedness,[2] is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion.
Same! If you think of it, please let me know 🙏
Whatever it is, it’s pretty common to the point that I can predict the entire conversation:
If there’s not a term for this, someone needs to coin one lol
I used to engage, but I’ve learned from my tenure on reddit to recognize the pattern and that there’s no point