Such an unbelievably talented and driven group of people. Having a full blown version of Fedora on Apple silicon would probably convince me to buy a macbook for my next laptop.
Note that the people behind the Asahi don’t yet recommend getting a MacBook for the sole reason of running Asahi on it.
Buy a framework laptop instead!
For those not familiar with what Asahi is:
Asahi Linux is a project and community with the goal of porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs, starting with the 2020 M1 Mac Mini, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro.
Slightly off topic but is there a smart person out there that can explain why having dark mode on makes this website think I’m from “hacker news” and block me (I didn’t even know what hacker news was before today). I’m not a web developer and just genuinely curious how dark mode users get lumped together with an entire website I’ve never heard of before.
they’re using css :visited trickery and color filters to detect HN users because HN has been explicitly evading any other way of detecting referrers coming from them (instead of solving the moderation problems being mentioned)
using dark mode messes with the colors which makes the text that’s supposed to be invisible, visible
I don’t think it’s triggered by having dark mode on. I have dark mode on and I’m not seeing it.
I’d agree but the message on the website specifies it’s triggered by hacker news AND dark mode. I’m on iOS with the Noir extension for my browser so perhaps whatever dark mode method you’re using isn’t detected the same way.
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For comparison I got no such pop up.
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Well, that’s a rant and a half. I’ve got a similar setup and don’t see the same message, but that’s still weird.
The good news is you don’t actually have to know about Asahi, they’re upsteaming all their work. If it’s useful to you, you’ll end up using it without even knowing
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Who knows what they are using to make that determination. Obviously you need some tweaking. It sounds like you’re reacting somewhat poorly though. Life goes on. There’s other ways that you can see the site if you really want to. Think about it from their perspective.
I got the same popup. Blocks the article, no way to get past it to read it. And no, I don’t read Hacker News nor did I follow a link from them. Fuck Asahi. They can pull their heads out of their asses and then maybe I’ll regain some interest in their shit… but I doubt it. They’ve just demonstrated sheer technical incompetence as well as childish pettiness. Definitely not anyone worthy of being relied on.
Asahi: Successfully reverse engineers undocumented silicon and releases first of its kind firmware upstream where possible. You: (of the Asahi devs) “demonstrated sheer technical incompetence.”
Asahi devs: receive abuse, harassment and discrimination from a website, often personally directed at minority team members. Ask the websites mods to do something about it, get ignored. Asahi devs: Block traffic from said website (and some collateral traffic) to do what they can to protect their team from harassment. You: “childish pettiness … not worthy of being relied on”
Maaaateee… you got blocked from looking at a website, it’s at most a mild inconvenience to you. Maybe recalibrate your outrage. I’m sure someone of your technical competence can find a way to circumvent the pop up, if you care even a little.
I already said I didn’t care.
It uses the :visited css psuedotag to display the message based on your browser history.
Just tried clicking that link, and got a huge pop up refusing me access to the site, and accusing me from being from a site called Hacker News (???).
According to the text in the screenshot you’ve posted, there is no referrer header, so perhaps you’re using some privacy extension that strips referrers.
Looks like uBlock Origin triggers it. That’s annoying, but whitelisting the site fixed it.
Yeah, that’s not happening. I only whitelist sites I trust, and that little pop-up doesn’t engender trust.
Fair enough.
You can also open developer tools and just delete the message elements, but you’d have to still be interested in what they’re saying.
It pretty much screams “Don’t trust!”
Blocking access from everyone that wants to protect their privacy is not an acceptable policy.
Got the same thing. Whatever they’re using to detect the source of incoming clicks, it isn’t working. Valid rant against HN or not, IMO that just means they’re morons who I wouldn’t trust to support a distro.
Edit: It’s also happening from their own post on Mastodon lmao. https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@Igigog/110820668174707603
It looks like they’re dumping you if you hide the referral link based on the text.
Truly gross practice.
According to the dev on Mastoson, it was DarkReader messing with their color math detection on a HN link’s
:visitedtag.they’re using the css :visited attribute on a link to a HN thread to display the message.
having passively followed asahi for some time (too poor to own a mac to actually try it out) the fact that they have to resort to shit like this is gross, but i 100% put the blame on HN for being an unmoderated trashfire (and explicitly bypassing the referrer based blocking asahi first had instead of, idk, actually moderating their site)
This is super cool! Been following these guys for a while.
Have the speaker issues been fixed yet? That’s the one thing holding me back from permanently switching. I would also prefer Debian over Arch or Fedora.
Nope, no speakers yet
Whatever Red Hat is doing with Enterprise Linux has luckily no direct effect on Fedora which in itself is a great distribution, so this is a good step.
I can’t say I am suprised but I sure am glad that the Asahi SIG has been so successful.
Kudos to everyone involved!
Such a solution is great because my girlfriend has a 11 years old MacBook pro and I’m sure Apple will find a way to render it obsolete
Asahi Linux is specifically built to run on Apple Silicon. It won’t be compatible with an 11yo MBP.
It will be in 11 years
Regular Fedora runs on that and has since this laptop came out.
It’s a regular x86-64 computer
Where M2 Pro support :(
