• Ilikecheese@lemm.eeEnglish
    2138·
    2 years ago

    Impressive, I guess, but how many of those 2 million posts have a single comment? If 90% of these are just bots reposting things from Reddit with no further engagement…

    • ohlaph@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2285·
      2 years ago

      The content will bring in users. I try to comment on interesting topics to help drive engagement.

      • Cthuwu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1071·
        2 years ago

        This is my thoughts as well. I’ve noticed that once one or two people express interest in a post, it tends to get much more traffic

      • GenericJeebus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        54·
        2 years ago

        I used to lurk like crazy on reddit. I had a nearly 12 year old account that mainly had a few comments here and there months apart, and only a few posts but ever since moving to Lemmy I’ve found myself actually posting relatively frequently to help build some of the smaller communities I’m in that have also migrated.

        • Four_lights77@lemm.eeEnglish
          11·
          2 years ago

          I’m exactly the same. I feel like the opportunity to have a productive conversation on Lemmy is a lot higher. There are fewer of us right now but we are the motivated minority kicking Reddit to the curb for its terrible actions and we want to see Lemmy thrive.

          • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 years ago

            I still check Reddit every couple days on my laptop. I don’t think they maintained a majority of their users. Engagement is way down. Most of the posts on my front page are barely hitting 2000 updoots, compared to well over 10,000 prior to July 1

        • 1984@lemmy.todayEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Keep it up. I wish people would bring themself to comment so they count as active users.

      • nieceandtows@programming.devEnglish
        20·
        2 years ago

        Only if the content is organic. Look at [email protected] . Full of bot posts from reddit with 0 comments. Even if one of them gets a comment, it would get drowned out by the subsequent bot posts. Blindly filling a community with bot posts would eventually make people unsub from it.

        • Pringles@lemm.eeEnglish
          16·
          2 years ago

          I’m sure those bots are well intended, but I would rather not see bots just copying posts from reddit blindly. When you sort all by new, it’s just a swamp of bot posts.

          Edit: So I checked to verify my claim and most are from @[email protected] iirc and you can just block that account to stop seeing all the automated posts from reddit

      • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        Ongoing discussion—i.e., comments replying to other comments, not just posts—drives engagement as much as content. If the post-to-comment ratio is too high, active commenters are less likely to encounter each other in the sea of automated posts.

    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 years ago

      Hey! Some of those posts with no comments are me posting pictures of cute bugs that I took! I’m not a bot, I’m just not very interesting.

      • thrawn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        Hah, that sounds like me! I started a few communities in places where I knew I could supply some OC, and so far its been mostly just me posting my stuff, but I’m stoked whenever I get comments!

        • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          2 years ago

          I just subbed to your nature patterns community! I love the idea! I will keep an eye out and hope I can contribute some neat things soon!

          And since I notice you are a gardener, you may be interested in my [email protected] community. It’s about bees… and their butts… I’ve also got [email protected] for the front side of the bees, and all of their adorable invertebrate friends.

    • grte@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      2 years ago

      Well the same page lists comments per day for the same period as 11,083,555. A ratio of 5.27 comments per post seems fine.

      • Ilikecheese@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, a ratio means nothing if the bulk of the comments are only on a small portion of the posts. If 90% of the posts have 0 comments and the other 10% have 52.7 comments per post, that’s worth knowing.

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      2 years ago

      And when comments are measured, you can say ‘but it’s just a small group making lots of comments’.

      And when users are measured, you can say ‘but they’re just lurkers’.

      Etc, etc. You can always naysay everything. This is impressive growth.

      • ultimate_question@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        The problem is that without an effective way to ID bot content then stats like this could be covering up the real trends in human users, particularly in any stat that purports to measure all lemmy instances since we already know there are instances out there filled with thousands of bot users

    • Bucky@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      What Lemmy needs now more than anything is commenters. If the site is to succeed, it needs robust comment sections.

    • PeleSpirit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I only miss one or two subs, all other places I used to engage with are here and active. I would say there are less bots here.

  • Leviathan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    137·
    2 years ago

    All I’m missing is the more niche communities to grow. It’s good to see lots of memes and engagement but a man needs more.

  • Hazdaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    943·
    2 years ago

    Man, I really hope more traffic starts heading into some of the more niche communities because getting a new thread every day or there and getting 1 or 2 replies - if that - is not how you sustain a site.

    Are there really that few people into cars or engineering or DIY stuff on Lemmy?! Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      26·
      2 years ago

      I think part of the problem is finding communities.

      I search for things, but they all look so small I assume that can’t be the proper one and end up not joining it. I’m not convinced I’m seeing the full list of what’s out there.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        131·
        2 years ago

        So much this! Can there really be only a dozen or so posts in a community as wide as cars? Like seriously? I must have some setting messed up.

        • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Take it easy. Reddit has more than 400 millions users, Lemmy hasn’t even broken into 70k MAU. The long tail is not yet that long here.

          If we want to get rid of the walled gardens, we need to have patience and cultivate our own. Join the communities you care about and stick with a discipline of posting one or two posts every day, no matter the source. Even if you have to browse the equivalent subreddit, get the link, send a DM to the original author about it to let them know they can post on Lemmy as well.

          People are not going to jump over night to here, but slowly we can win this one out.

        • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          That’s a really useful site.

          I’m not sure why it’s showing such a small number when I search for it using my instance. e.g. searching for “games” shows [email protected] has 83 subscribers, while your link shows 19,400. Is it just showing the number of subscribers from my instance on there, or some number when it was first found by my instance or what?

        • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Okay. I’m going to be stupid and ask the basic question

          I’m on lemm.ee and my feed is interesting enough so if I fuck with it I could make it worse.

          But let’s say I want to see more of https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy (or something smaller) on my feed how do I do that?

          I was going to wait for an app and go from there. But I’m not sure which one has swam to the top of most recommended (I used rif on Reddit and enjoyed that)

          Edit: I’m going to try sync. I’ll work it out from that

          • Steal Wool@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            2 years ago

            Just subscribe to it and it will show up in your “subscribed” feed. Should be similar on sync.

    • Tudou@feddit.ukEnglish
      14·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, this is my experience with Lemmy so far: it has replaced the “all” experience for me, but all my hobby / interests subs are completely dead.

      • o_oli@lemmy.worldEnglish
        81·
        2 years ago

        That’s ok though, because that’s how Reddit started too. They didn’t add subreddits from the start. So as long as it is providing an /all experience then I don’t see why it shouldn’t grow from there.

    • GNU Dude@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      2 years ago

      Please give the names of the communities. I’m not a home owner, but I love cars, DIY and tinkering :)

    • raptir@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      I think part of it is a discovery problem. Which, I know, I don’t want some algorithm telling me what content to look at, but it’s tough to find all the stuff I’m interested in just by searching.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 years ago

        As I replied to someone else, it doesn’t help that the content moves around. Was a post in one of the subs (are they even called subs here?) that they were changing servers which apparently would mean they’d disappear if you didn’t change your settings too. For such a simple thing, you’d think it would be automatic.

    • Scotty_Trees@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      is it just me or is a lot of what a see are Linux/tech users mostly on lemmy, perhaps that could be why some niche communities haven’t blossomed here yet. I’m really big into metalcore music, but so far, there really isn’t the same type of community that rivals the Reddit metalcore version.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 years ago

        There are sooooo many Linux folks here, it’s crazy. Which is fine if that’s what they want to use, but yeah this site has certain groups that overwhelm others.

    • bill_buttlicker@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      What are some of those communities you’re in for cars and tinkering? I was subscribed to both of those topics on reddit and am looking to join. I think there are probably lots like me who are here but not quite up and running.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        2 years ago

        I used the Communities link and searched for cars and DIY and engineering and subed to any of the ones which seem to have even a little bit of traffic (in the hopes that maybe things would increase eventually). For car ones, literally just “Cars” and “electric vehicles” are the only real one I bothered to sub to. Tried looking for Subaru or WRX stuff and that came up basically empty. For tinkering there is “3d Printing” and “woodworking” but I think the woodworking one is moving servers so it might disappear. Also “Machinist” but there’s no traffic in that one. Which is the case for far too many of the ones that come up.

    • DrDickHandler@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      2 years ago

      Those niche communities will remain dead for years (assuming Lemmy grows and doesn’t die). It takes a long time to build these up.

      • cassetti@kbin.social
        6·
        2 years ago

        Seems like every major transition from social media platform reduces that length of time for niche communities. It also took Reddit a while to get there as well. But people are already looking for identical communities on lemmy, like the tree ents

    • dub@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Agreed. Having a nice front page with a whole bunch of things is great, but not having those niche communities is rough even doing the transition

    • notapantsday@feddit.deEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.

      I’m right here, where are you guys? Still looking for a good homeowner and DIY community on lemmy.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 years ago

        Homeassistant, HomeImprovement and woodworking are the only ones that I found that are mildly related and even then the traffic there is sparse.

    • SargTeaPot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 years ago

      The reason I’m yet to post any threads is because sync is yet to add that ability. But the moment it is added I’ve got a few things to post. For now I’ll continue to upvote n comment

  • slumberlust@lemmy.worldEnglish
    823·
    2 years ago

    Over half my feed is just low effort memes or auto posted arstechnica articles. Does this data include bot posts?

    • FlaccidJim@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      I mean I’ve been posting Moldy Memes on the memes page. Mainly just to share my ancient saved stuff, and to help boost the meme page up with more posts. I do understand the frustration, but hopefully more, active users will come around.

    • Myro@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      I would assume so. But I see quite some organic content as well, with good interactions in the comment sections. I’m pretty happy. 90% of what was on reddit was of no interest to me as tends to be the case with any large content aggregator.

    • itadakimasu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Half the posts since yesterday are people bitching about Sync ultra costing the same amount of money as a Costco hotdog combo once a month. 🙄

    • a4ng3l@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      Yeah it’s quite a game of whack a mole to get rid of all those memes subs and their bot content… it’s actually worse than on reddit it seems.

  • Clbull@lemmy.worldEnglish
    781·
    2 years ago

    I wonder how the graph will look in a month’s time now that Sync is in open beta.

    • tjtherealbest@lemmy.worldEnglish
      794·
      2 years ago

      As someone who never used Sync before, trust me, it will spike like crazy. I don’t know why I never used it before but this an amazing experience. If you’re reading this and trying to find a Lemmy app to use and don’t care about FOSS, get Sync ASAP

      • Chriskmee@lemm.eeEnglish
        443·
        2 years ago

        As someone who has been using sync for reddit for years, the app has come a long way and learned a lot over that time, and pretty much all of that is transferred over to the Sync for Lemmy app. The sync for Lemmy app really has a huge head start thanks to the Sync for Reddit app.

        I remember when Reddit was releasing their app, they appeared to base it on Sync, and you can still see a lot of that influence today. I remember the Sync dev thinking it was all over for his app, since Reddit is copying his design and surely has a team that can develop a good app, but obviously Reddit stole a good design and ruined it.

    • Amilo159@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 years ago

      Would be great if all previous reddit apps went to lemmy. I personally can’t wait for Baconreader for Lemmy.

      • Clbull@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        2 years ago

        Apollo going to Lemmy would be the ultimate middle finger to Spez, especially with the false accusations of blackmail.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’ll keep using Sync as it’s actually good.

  • butternuts@lemmy.worldEnglish
    70·
    2 years ago

    Lemmy does seem to have enough content and user engagement for my needs. I’ve noticed engagement going up the past month but wasn’t sure I was making that up in my head.

    I really haven’t felt the need to go back to reddit much. But the niche communities could use a lot more users posting and creating new content.

    • Psythik@lemm.eeEnglish
      13·
      2 years ago

      I agree with this. Plenty of content on All, not so much once you start doing a deep into communities. It’ll improve with time.

    • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      I agree with the niche stuff, but I will say I almost like having to create a post for my inquiry, and though not much engagement, what I do get is really helpful, more personal info from a few kind and knowledgeable people. So I think perhaps we should readjust our expectations and enjoy this for what it is.

  • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    56·
    2 years ago

    I would like to thank everyone on here for the last two months or whatever it’s been from the start of the migration, and to the people just coming over, and those who were here already. I actually feel like I’ve grown as an individual in my time here. I’m starting to see certain patterns in my own behavior and working on them thanks to the content and the engaging discussions on here. I used to avoid interaction and lost all hope, but you are all really awesome. Thank you <3

  • MrHindsight@lemmy.worldEnglish
    53·
    2 years ago

    First comment ever on lemmy! With reddit and the latest update moving shtiff around, it’s gotten to a point where I no longer want to be apart of that app. Not mentioning the money grubbing infants over there… So I’m trying this one out! Thanks for staying open and active! 👍

  • Sami_Uso@lemmy.worldEnglish
    49·
    2 years ago

    Having the sync app has made the transition so much easier. I don’t know if the same level of discussion will ever happen here, but I’m going to give it a try. I’m done going to the bot farm over there

    • rizlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 years ago

      man, I gotta admit I’m here solely because of Sync. no idea about the content yet, just enjoying the smooth ride of the app. (after the janky atrocity of the official reddit app. ;)

    • Robertej92@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 years ago

      The thing I find with discussion on here is that although most threads have way fewer comments and especially top level comments, I’m way more likely to get a response and end up in some kind of discussion than on Reddit where most of the time you just get lost in a sea of comments. Also think comments tend to be more conversational, less memey, less aggressive etc, just generally nicer.

    • Decimit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I keep hearing good things about the Sync app and I’m just waiting here on iOS.

      *Fixed typo thinks to things.

  • Baba_booey1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    471·
    2 years ago

    Was waiting for Sync upgrade and finally I’m a daily active user of Lemmy. Finally I will be useful for the community 🥂

  • dimlo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    341·
    2 years ago

    all the subreddits i love had no visible immigration to lemmy so i will have to wait a while to see the change

    • Pastor Haggis@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      A few of my communities came over but the big one I’m missing is the college football sub with flairs and everything so I can discriminate against those of lesser teams.

      The one here just isn’t the same.

  • Favrion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    2 years ago

    How does a cumulative line graph, with a running total that only ever increases, possibly descend rather than plateau?

    • Paulius@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      30·
      2 years ago

      I’m not sure exactly how the Fediverse Observer calculates the day-to-day totals, but my speculation for the dips in the graph is:

      • Some of Lemmy’s servers/instances going offline could cause the total to go down;
      • Post deletion could also contribute to the total going down.

      These dips in the graph confused people in my previous post, as the dips were suggesting that the graph represents ‘new posts by day.’ I edited the title in the screenshot this time to clarify it is total by day.