You smoke weed every day because you are mentally addicted.
I smoke weed everyday to quiet the cacophony that is our insane world.
We both have mental health issues.
I drink coffee everyday. I will rise my cup of Joe to the stoner. I get you bro.
Thing is, caffeine is physically addictive. Weed is not.
But you can make a habit out of anything.
Weed has psychological withdrawal effects https://lemm.ee/comment/913303
So does breaking a nail chewing habit. Brains are funky things.
Cheers! I’d like to pass on this info though, for anyone who enjoys both like myself:
Caffeine drinking potentiates cannabinoid transmission: interaction with stress effects - Neuropharmacology 2009
Our data suggest that the cannabinoid system is implicated in the psychoactive properties of caffeine and in the ability of caffeine to reduce the pathological consequences of stress. Chronic caffeine assumption sensitized GABAergic synapses to the presynaptic effect of cannabinoid CB1 receptor stimulation by exo- and endocannabinoids. The synaptic effects of caffeine were slowly reversible after its removal from the drinking solution. Furthermore, although exposure to caffeine for only 24h did not produce measurable changes of the sensitivity of cannabinoid CB1 receptors, it was able to contrast the down-regulation of CB1 receptor-mediated responses after social defeat stress.
I copied the rest from bloommedicinals.com, just the relevant bits. Also added the links to the studies and the pages with additional descriptions.
TL;DR:
- Low levels of caffeine can help to maximize the effects of THC, but too much caffeine can lessen the impact of your cannabis
- Caffeine and THC can both increase dopamine levels, but too much at once can trigger anxiety, agitation, and paranoia
What Happens When You Smoke Weed and Drink Coffee?
Since coffee and cannabis may offer so many health benefits on their own, you might think it’s safe to assume that enjoying a little bit of weed with your coffee would be okay. The reality is … it might be safe for most, but not for all. Here’s why.
THC and coffee can boost the amount of dopamine in our systems. Although dopamine can promote feelings of happiness and euphoria, too much of it at once can trigger anxiety, agitation, and paranoia. In addition, both caffeine and THC can both increase your blood pressure and heart rate.
This is why many doctors advise that those with heart conditions and those at risk of heart arrhythmia or stroke, should not mix caffeine and THC. So, if you’re new to mixing coffee and cannabis, it’s important to consult your doctor to make sure it makes sense for you. If it does, begin with lower amounts of coffee and cannabis than you would normally consume on their own. Then if needed, you can increase your dosage slowly.
Back in 2014, a study was conducted to measure the effects of mixing caffeine and cannabis on squirrel monkeys. The results of this study were published in the Journal of Neuroscience. (also described here)
The monkeys were given the ability to self administer cannabis whenever they wanted. All they had to do was to pull on a lever. When the monkeys were given low doses of a substance similar to caffeine, they seemed less likely to reach for the THC. But, when they received high doses of caffeine, they seemed to reach for that lever more often.
Then in 2018, a study led by Marilyn Cornelis at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine seemed to back up these findings. This time, the study examined the effects of mixing cannabis and coffee on humans. It found that the more caffeine people consumed, the less cannabis their body was able to metabolize. (also described here)
So, although small amounts of caffeine can help your THC go a long way – too much caffeine can lessen its effects.
Weed is illegal federally, but it keeps getting produced at a state level. This really worries me, si to try to rectify this situation, I have just been buying and burning as much as I can. I don’t know how much of an effect its having because I just keep seeing more pop up.
I will continue despite it seeming more and more like a fools errand.
Notice that this previous comment holds with certainty for the United States Of America. Your mileage may vary depending on your area.
If for instance on the other hand, you live in The Netherlands, having small amounts of cannabis to use is legal.
So glad that isn’t the case here. Burning small amounts would get me no where.
I’m in this picture and I don’t like it.
(I’ve stopped spreading the “not addictive” BS, but am still very addicted)
Based
Pray, it’ll give you the strength you need
Cuz weed fuckin rocks bruv.
🚫not to me🚫
Life is so fucking grim and full of misery and there’s barely anything to help people cope but weed is the hill you die on.
Life really isn’t that grim you’re just depressed. And weed is know for causing depression to keep spiraling. Good luck
I don’t like it, I’m fine with people who do though. Drugs aren’t for me :)
What about caffeine? People act like “drugs are bad” is a reasonable stance, but they mean illegal drugs which just happen to be illegal, usually without good reason. Most adults are drug addicts, it’s just that the drug of choice is caffeine and they don’t see it as an issue because it’s legal and been normalized.
Animals have been doing drugs for longer than humans have existed. There are many benificial drugs that can help us with manually regulating bodily activity. Used responsibly, drugs can be great.
Caffeine is just a mild stimulant though. Doesn’t have the same affects
Same with medicinal drugs too. They’re fine
Yeah, the point is that drugs are fine morally. It’s when they’re abused they cause issues. There is some line that you’ve made up where drugs become “bad” but it is made up. Recognizing that it’s a made up line is important. I’m not saying you need to use drugs or anything like that, just realize that “drugs are bad” is a blatantly dishonest and untrue statement.
There are also plenty of psychoactive drugs that can be pretty helpful to human mental health. Marijuana also can have many health benefits, and it doesn’t cause people to do dangerous things usually. Most of the time it just causes people to sit around inside and not bother other people, unlike alcohol.
Drugs aren’t bad. Drug abuse is bad. Doing bad activities while on drugs is also bad, but the drugs are not.
Honestly, I use it about once a week. I have friends who get drunk more frequently then that. I can see why people would use it every day but they shouldn’t imo.
Okay, you’re probably addicted and your friends are clearly alcoholic.
Bruh have you ever met an addict of any sort at all in your life? Addictions aren’t a once a week sort of thing
A person who goes out and gets absolutely wasted every single weekend is very much addicted to alcohol and probably an alcoholic. I don’t see how using weed would be any different.
“oh I’ve got my heroin use under control. I only inject on fridays” absurd. Once a week is definitely an addiction.
Tbf once a week is hardly an addiction lol
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Weed is not going to ruin your life the same way like benzos and alcohol would. If you smoke everyday then you probably aren’t very productive, but you are not actively ruining your life.
Weed is dangerous because of how safe it is. It makes you ok with being bored and not progressing/growing as a person. Alcohol addiction will straight up make you homeless.
Someone else said it, but I agree:
if alcohol were discovered today, it would 100% be illegal in no time
If you aren’t very productive you haven’t found the right strain… or you’re eating edibles.
Ive honestly stopped buying the different strains have different effects talk. No matter what I smoke I get stoned and lazy af. Not that that’s bad, it’s just what happens.
Good that you know your self in that case. Not all bodies react the same way. I know folks who can’t get high from smoking but do from edibles, and vice versa.
Still get stoned from edibles unless I throw some other stuff in the mix.
Same here. Tried indica because it “slows you down” vs sativa, and all the hybrids in between. All are the same affects
I’ve definitely noticed a slight difference but no strain is going to suddenly make you productive. Maybe you want to be productive but you feel tired and crappy because you’re too sober, and getting a fix helps. Doesn’t mean the weed is actually helping you it just means you’re addicted
It’s a choice. I could stop any time I like!
Yeah, I just voluntarily chose to do it for 9 years every single day, even though I didn’t actually like it anymore the last 2 of those.
Every single person on this planet is addicted to one thing or the other. Basically we are genetically junkies. We strive for pleasure. Simple as that. I found pleasure in weed many years ago and I don’t have any moral or other intention to quit. I just don’t give a …
Thinking about what I’m addicted to 🤔🤔
Social media to a point, I guess
“WHAAT!”
(Or, DMX: barks)
You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that’s enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs. The Beatles were so fucking high they let Ringo sing a few tunes. -Bill Hicks
A Bill Hicks quote is always appreciated.
Why? My guy, have you seen the world? Have you seen how people treat each other? If you don’t smoke I don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, but if it’s to be “a moral and upstanding citizen” I both laugh and cry at your blissful ignorance.
I don’t like smoking.
me neither
Don’t like how it feels.
Fair enough to all three of you, just let me have my weed in peace.
Of course i have nothing against people who take weed, i just personally don’t like the feeling of alcohol/weed or anything like that. Makes me feel like I’m not in control of myself. I hate not being in control of myself.
I don’t care if anyone smokes. Just don’t annoy me with it. People smoking in public places and giving you free lung cancer is my worst pet peeve.
Thats why I hate smoking more than drinking. Drinking doesn’t make me want to cough my lungs out and doesn’t endanger me directly when someone does it. Smoking does.
I seriously doubt you’re near enough second hand pot smoke to get cancer compared to like whatever’s ins the water or like idk I feel like micro plastics in your blood should be a bigger concern. But hey everyone’s entitled to their own version of paranoia. Gotta keep these meat suits living as long as possible, right?
As someone who smokes weed way too often… I do it because I’m addicted to it and anyone who says it’s ‘habitual not addictive’ or they’re just ‘medicating’ is in denial
I smoked way too often and didn’t find it addictive, though. I smoked because I had it. I only quit because my lungs hurt lol
Anyone who says it isn’t addictive is lying to themselves and potentially harming others who may end up getting addicted themselves.
As someone else who smokes way too much… I do it because I’m addicted to it. Most people don’t realize that habitual addictions are addictions, and just because weed doesn’t have physical withdrawal symptoms, doesn’t meant you can’t be addicted.
The fun thing is, it does have physical withdrawal symptoms when you stop.
They’re just not nearly as bad some other substances.
I’d rank them worse than coffee’s withdrawal symptoms.
well I have been trying to quit and haven’t had a puff for like 3 days and I’ve been feeling like shit, whole body sore and persistent headache. I’m not sure if it’s withdrawal though or if I just caught a virus
Well it really isn’t addictive as opiates for example are. You wont become chemically dependant to it. The kind of addiction it causes is the same one that social media, TV, gaming, etc might cause. It becomes an habit and you get used to that. I know this is a simplification but this is how I see it.
Because before it my ADHD made it functionally impossible to sleep, since when I’m not on the meds my mind runs too hard and when I am on the meds I can’t sleep either because they’re prescription meth, but weed solves that problem and I enjoy sleeping.
What does Weed with ADHD feel like?
Basically same as the other dude, but no anxiety beyond the norm anyone would have in their daily lives, and no paranoia beyond the legal consequences of excersing what I see as a right yet the state sees as a crime. Were it federally legal it would mitigate that of course, but that’ll never happen because then nobody could use legalization to get votes so we can’t actually go around solving things, now can we? (Bitter? Maybe. Paranoid no lol.)
What do you use? And what’s your dosage? (I know it will vary from person to person)
“Weed.” And I don’t live in a legal state, so dosage is hard to describe I guess. “Some,” not enough to be zombiefied but enough that I feel it, is the best I can do.
I used it to self-medicate for my ADHD for years. It calmed down all the noise in my head and allowed me to have one train of thought at a time. It also made me high, which was nice. I’m the end, it became a crutch for dealing with the hard aspects of life, and fucked with my brain chemistry a lot. I ended up a paranoid wreck, developed severe anxiety and stopped. Now I enjoy it occasionally but if I smoke too much it makes me feel depressed for days afterwards.
I am not diagnosed but have good reason to suspect I have adhd so I am in the process of trying to get a diagnosis. This is kind of it for me too. My brain never shuts up. Weed slowed my mind down and of course made me feel good like you said. I actually had moments if i didnt overdo it where it gave me motivation to actually do something with myself. Fine line though on the amount, kind of needed to microdose for that affect. Otherwise it just numbed me to my own issues and kind of made me not care. Only reason I quit is because my problems i wasn’t dealing with started to catch up with me and I hit a really bad depressive state that kind of scared me after literally everything was crashing in on me. Maybe eventually I will use it recreational again but for now I’m staying away and trying to get real help.
Here’s a balanced take from someone with moderately bad ADHD who very rarely smoked weed (so, not biased).
A mild high feels like a bad ADHD day, but then I had a fewer symptoms after the high is gone. Trace amounts could get me mostly symptomless without any real feeling of “high”, but I’m so lightweight that would be less than what most people call “microdosing”.
A moderate high…well, probably the same as everyone else (except I would get there for less than most). Then the entire next day it was like I didn’t have ADHD at all.
Beyond that, I only did once and I “greened out”, possibly related/causal to the part where I “very rarely smoked weed”. Greening out with ADHD is like greening out without ADHD I’m sure.
