Bunbury

Problem is that lack of places to vote isn’t a bug. It’s a feature. It means people who don’t have access to transport or who have do work during the day have a more difficult time voting. Not everyone has the time to drive somewhere and then stand in line for hours. Republicans have used this as one of their techniques to discourage certain groups of people from voting at all.

Yes he will make people suffer regardless, but I am referring to a difference in the scale of suffering here. There’s ways for him to think he has won without actually winning. Plenty of leaders have used it against him already. Though admittedly this would work better if the media then didn’t follow up with “Haha. Cheeto doesn’t even know he didn’t win”. We might not be able to escape that one for the more public parts of politics. Though he’s trying hard to cut off the media that isn’t on his side and silence them, so who knows really.

Because this particular angry geriatric toddler has access to a lot of ways to make people suffer on a large scale and delights in the suffering of people. Sure, making him feel miserable feels great, but how many lives are you willing to sacrifice for it?

Fair enough. Turns out while every single news article reporting on the plant scream study talks about it as “pain”, the scientists themselves made no such claims. Merely calling it “stress” in plants.

Thank you for giving me a reasonable response that made me look into it further and educated me - the way I feel like would have been beneficial initially instead of what actually happened in that vegan group.

I got banned from a vegan group once because I responded to a person talking about how “non-vegans must be sociopaths to not care about all the suffering of animals as they scream in pain” or something like that. I responded with a link to a study that plants do in fact scream when being injured. We just can’t hear it. Apparently they didn’t like that, lol.

Edit to add: I didn’t just respond with a link. But something like “As much as I appreciate veganism I am not sure what to tell you. Because if avoiding screaming and suffering in your food source is the reason you became vegan I do have some bad news <link>”