Nintendo: “How about you don’t play those old games and buy our new games instead.”
🎵🎶How’bout I do anyway ?🎶🎵
Damn, what do we do now when we see an UnexpectedBillWurtz? Joking aside, I almost typed an r/ on reflex. It’s weird how hard it is to break some habits.
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I was told by my parents not to play with shit.
I’ll buy your new games AND play the old games! You get the exact same amount of money either way!
They don’t even lose money, they just don’t earn any.
Yup. And it wsdn’t miney they would have gotten anyway so big N gets mad about nothing.
As is tradition.
Because video game companies never relaunch franchises to capitalize on nostalgia. The mental gymnastics you people play to justify copyright infringement is amazing.
Nintendo isn’t making money off those games now. Might they have plans to relaunch older games on newer consoles in the future? What do you think? Crazy right.
History has shown that if you make it easy to access something, people will generally prefer to access it legally rather than using piracy, because most people are willing to pay for something if they have the option and if it’s relatively affordable. Trying to stop piracy doesn’t help sales, let alone hypothetical future sales, so trying to stop roms of older games won’t help them make more profit when they relaunch/re-release older games on newer consoles. So it’s still pointless. Not to mention that people playing those older games in the meantime keeps them in the public consciousness longer and so more people are likely to know about them, hear about them, and want to buy them when they’re available through official channels.
Would buying used games also undermine their efforts to capitalize on relaunching a franchise?
Found the bootlicker!
That’s a good “what if” there, but no.
The mental gymnastics you people play to justify copyright infringement is amazing.
I don’t need mental gymnastics. All I need are ROMs.
they dont really “lose” money regardless
they just dont gain money, which they could have gained… if emulation wasn’t super fucking easy and also fuck nintendo
I’m sooo tired of hearing about bad companies being shitty to their consumers and then watching thousands post about how wholesome and sweet Nintendo is and sharing their new animal crossing themed butthole tattoo to honor them.
Stop paying these pricks and just pirate their stuff.
The problem is that only one person choosing to pirate the games because they think the company doesn’t deserve their money can’t offset the fanboy who buys two collection edition games just because
We have to rally around the blackest flag. It’s a numbers game.
For a company who brags about not going to have issue even if they’re not making even a penny for years to come, they sure trying their best to get every penny they can.
No, they’re actually not. They leave a ton of money on the table every time they release a new console and then don’t sell their old games on it.
Nintendo is run by old Japanese men who don’t understand technology. They still use faxes ffs when conducting business-critical decisions.
You. Sound like a nice and smart person. Can you send me your 78 character friend code so I can enter it with a controller to add you?
Omg lmao yes this feature is so clunky and antiquated
You’re supposed to wait until they re-release it on a new console with the same graphics for $70, then pay for it then, dummy.
Todd Howard, is that you?
Pirating games is kinda a pain in the ass these days and I don’t even bother on PC
But I will pirate as much from Nintendo as possible. From their price fixing in the 80s and 90s to hostility towards people who want to buy games to people not even being able to get games they’ve paid for…
Fuck Nintendo
They could easily set up a permanent library of ALL previous titles for sale along with emulators for each new console they release. Nintendo could re-sell you every game they have ever made every time they drop new hardware, but nope, just a big fuck you.
Doesn’t lose them money, the used game woudn’t make them money anyway which is why they lobbied to try and make reselling used games require a royalty or be illegal for years before everything became digital.
As for emulation they lie and call emulation itself illegal (the copies may be but emulation itself is not) because then they can’t pull a disney and “vault” old games on their digital storefronts and make you buy it again when they decide to just up shut down the previous server when they launch the next console.
They don’t want us to own the things we pay for. They want us to rent them while not realizing it.
They don’t want us to own the things we pay for.
The real answer right there.
You do own what you paid for. You didn’t pay for accessibility on any hardware platform for the rest of eternity.
That’s functionally the same thing when what you own is digital and limited to a specific service.
When Nintendo started Virtual Console, I was really impressed, because instead of fighting emulation, they embraced it and made money off of it. All of these old games were just potential profit that they were sitting on. On top of that, they even managed to get games from non-Nintendo consoles onto VC!
Then, they discontinued it, and I’m sitting here, scratching my head and trying to figure out why. Nintendo is a strange company. They have an undeniably awesome product and very talented and creative developers, but also pretty bone-headed management.
More companies should do like id Software and open-source their games after a set amount of time.
That would be pretty nice. But companies usually protect their IP, so they won’t go around showing how they code their games.
If they open source it isn’t it easier for other companies to release clones? Not identical but inspired on their code. At a lower cost because the engineering challenges of coding the game are already taught in there.
not sure if the programming and engineering problems of a game released 20 yeasr ago have too much relevance today
Ah ok, 20 years seems fair. I wonder if Nintendo is concerned people would rather play old emulated games for free instead of buying new (expensive) games.
Or are they planning to monetize these old games at some point? Imagine if they provided a monthly subscription to a library of emulated games for Switch. Playstation does this in the Premium subscription layer.
Anyways, if they are going after people emulating 20yo games, that’s pretty unreasonable. That’s some penny-grabbing shit right there. How much people actually emulate games anyways? How much people want to play 20yo games anyways? I can’t imagine that being any kind of threat to their income.
They want you to buy a Switch and Switch Online to play those games.
And if they did it would only be to inspire new games.
Remember the Disney Vault?
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you gotta wait until they release the exact same emulator on the switch with the new switch online expansion pack plus premium ultra 3D bonus pass
Honestly most people who use emulation probably own a copy of the games they emulate. It actually is possible to legally obtain a ROM or iso of a Nintendo game, despite how bad Nintendo wants you to believe it isn’t. You are allowed to back up software that you purchased. Do most people do it the legal way? Probably not. But effectively I think it’s all the same.
Wanna make money off your old games? Release an upgraded version. Put in the content that was left on the cutting room floor and up the resolution. Or just sell it as an emulator pack with the bare minimum requirements for it to function on the console like they did with 3D all Stars. People will probably still buy it.
It seems legally that the only way to legitimately have a rom is to rip it yourself. For example, I own 1943: Battle of Midway and Flying Shark arcade machines, but I would likely have to dump the roms myself to legally be able to play then via emulation.
I have ps1 and ps2 games that I have ripped the isos for, but I have c64, Atari, and nes games that I can’t dump without significant expense.
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I mean lots of media has always worked that way. Build up the nostalgia to increase what people are willing to pay. Before VHS, Disney would lock up their movies and bring them out to theaters every couple of decades making way more money than if they put it on TV. It drives demand. And they think it should be their decision whether to satisfy that demand or not.
They called it the “Disney Vault”. They did the same for VHS too, they would re-release old movies onto VHS for a limited time and then it would “Go back in the Vault”. Its an annoyingly effective marketing scheme and I hate that almost all studios do this with their shows and movies now.
