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    If your community knowingly depends on slavery then your community probably deserves to collapse

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      Not community. Economy.

      Slavery, Prison labour, migrant labour that you can totally rip off and not pay, and lastly child labour. That’s what’s propping up the economy at this point…

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      Do you think the workers of the community can compete on wages with literal slaves? Slavery destroys working people, even those who are “free”.

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    This is not a meme…

    Once you know how and why was the private prisons created or operate and “earn” their money you would be sad if not depressed…

    I recommend watching a documentary on this topic.

     

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    Using underpaid prison labor to deny people access to well-paying jobs, forcing more people into difficult situations.

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    So they are literally forced labour camps? How can anyone in the US still complain about Russia? (Just as a disclaimer, this is not a defence of Russia. I think the conditions there are terrible, but the US doesn’t seem far behind, if at all)

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      The US has way better propaganda - the marketing strategies invented in the 60s by the nephew of Freud were put to very good use at bypassing people’s reasoning and not just at making them feel needs, fears, and short-term endorphine jolts related to products and services being sold.

      Also the US has way better circus and more bread than Russia.

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      IIRC, unless you’re lucky enough to have someone outside of jail putting money into your commissary, you kind of have to if you want half decent living conditions.

      Want more shampoo or feminine hygiene products? You have to buy them. Want more food than you were alotted? You have to buy it. It even includes things like toothpaste.

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        It’s so horrifically abusable too. You can easily lose the “privilege” of slave labor just because someone felt like it or didn’t like your face.

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      Russia’s actively committing genocide and threatens nuclear war against anyone who directly intervenes, so there’s that.

      I agree with you though. The U.S. is just a third world country with a nice coat of paint at this point.

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    Pretty much exact argument much of the south made about ending slavery before the american civil war happened…

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      It’s not true then, it’s not true now.

      Slaves were already barely profitable compared to paid labor before the civil war, and slave labour prison labour is only profitable because it’s massively subsidized by the US government.

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        Same is actually true for most fossil fuel production now - only has profits because of subsidizing.

        The folks profiting spend part of that profit to pay for politicians to continue the cycle.

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      Also frequently hear the same argument made for any change to the thoroughly corrupt healthcare scheme in the U.S.

      That any form of socialized medicine would collapse the insurance industries putting thousands out of work and damaging stock portfolios and retirement accounts that may have invested in such. But hey, it’s totally ok to bankrupt tons of citizens and enslave ill folks to lousy jobs because they can’t afford to lose employment-tied insurance that would never be affordable as an individual.

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        Anything good for is but not thier bottom line: OH HEAVENS NO, THE EXPENSE!

        Anything they can profit from: this is essential.

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    So it’s just “we can’t abolish slavery because it will hurt all the poor slave-owners” but modernized.

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      It’s the same argument. These people are enslaved. The 13th amendment abolished slavery “except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted”.

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    The very idea that we have legal, Constitutional slavery still in the US and most people don’t know or care is genuinely disturbing.

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      Also the idea that there are haves and have-nots in prison royally pisses me off. Like, they’re already prisoners. Aren’t we supposed to be helping them become productive in society? Yet they’re not even treated equally in a god damn prison it’s actually disgusting how blatantly predatory our legal system is. Many people aren’t even “lucky” enough to work for countless bs reasons. It’s so gross.

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        It definitely is. Prisoners are at the mercy of the state more than anyone else, so their treatment at the hands of the state should be the biggest offense when it comes to civil rights. But here we are, where people actively root for prisoner mistreatment just to “teach them a lesson”. When at the very least results should show them that this mistreatment does not actually bring any type of rehabilitation or deterrent to crime.

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      To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism. Gulag labor in the USSR was widely acknowledged and documented. And there are likewise credible accusations of forced labor (and much worse) in China as well. It’s bad in every case, and intellectually honest observers would condemn this practice in every instance.

      This isn’t capitalism or communism - it’s an autocracy and human rights issue. The places with the best criminal justice outcomes these days are generally the “third way socialism” eg Scandinavian model countries which have a blended version of regulated capitalism and wealth redistribution.

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        To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism.

        The majority of western capitalist countries DON’T have legal slave labour in their prison system (or anywhere). I’m pretty sure it’s actually only the USA

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    Oh no, is your community relying on slave labor because capitalism deems it not efficient enough to exist? Boo hoo so sad, better vote pro-slaver again next election, they will surely fix the problem this term.

  • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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    But no, we can’t plan out and try out a new or better system, because we might hurt poor old capitalism’s feelings. Won’t somebody think of the billionaires?

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    Wonder how many workers in those towns lose their jobs to slave labor from prisons, blame it on immigrants, and vote for demagogues