I’m applying for sysadmin type jobs and feel a lack of degree is holding me back. Should I simply lie? Can’t see most employers actually checking on a degree I would have earned 30+ years ago.

  • echo@lemmings.world
    3·
    18 天前

    No. They will check. I have no degree and got a senior level position with a major company. If you have 30 years of valid experience then that is far more valuable than a degree.

  • zzx@lemmy.world
    2·
    18 天前

    Fuck that- I had to run away from home at 16- never graduated high school, never graduated college.

    I’m a senior software engineer now. Just make sure you can do the work, make sure you can teach yourself anything. Fight and advocate for yourself, not all of us were dealt good cards in life.

        • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          1·
          18 天前

          Personally, I was hired on the recommendation of friends, and more lately had a manager who looked past it and saw my experience.

          I’ve also heard about some horror stories out of Asia that look at high school grades never mind the degree. Wouldn’t want to work for that kind of company myself.

  • slazer2au@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    18 天前

    Sure why not. Business lie by saying they need someone with 5 years experience in a junior role but will happily take someone without.

    • Seaguy05@lemmy.world
      1·
      18 天前

      Or if you’re looking to fluff experience, pick a company that closed down. Who they gonna call, the Ghostbusters?

      • ReanuKeeves@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        18 天前

        4 of my previous employers have either gone bankrupt or represent a different agency and I feel like if someone looked over my resume right now they would automatically assume I was lying. Or cursed.

        • Spaz@lemmy.world
          1·
          17 天前

          Def cursed lol.

          Edit: even your instance is shutting down. You sure you arent?

          • ReanuKeeves@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            17 天前

            Well at least I can charge people money to weaponize my curse. Any enemies you want me to stand around and curse?

  • Christopher Masto@lemmy.masto.community
    0·
    18 天前

    I just started a new job and I had to dig up a copy of my high school diploma as part of the background check. Ridiculous? Yes. But also, they just outsource to a third party company to verify everything. And that company doesn’t seem to actually do what they’re paid for and they just kicked back all of the work to me.

    In any case, I agree with the comments that you shouldn’t need a degree. I’ve been a manager in tech for a long time, including 10 years at Google, and have a lot of experience hiring. I don’t have a college degree. And once someone had work experience, I never paid any attention to their education. Lying about it is only going to risk getting caught.

    • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.todayEnglish
      0·
      18 天前

      Question about this since I’ve never been asked - they asked for a photo copy of your diploma? I landed my tech job without them even checking or asking for my college diploma, let alone my high school diploma (both of which I would be willing, but it’s strange to me)

      • Christopher Masto@lemmy.masto.community
        2·
        11 天前

        Sorry I took forever to answer this.

        None of my previous jobs (including Google) checked references at all. They may have done a criminal background check, I don’t remember.

        This latest one outsources their background check to a company that I’m sure charges them tons of money to do very little. I was disappointed to see from their web site that they are selling their use of AI to screen people. So that’s great.

        But anyway, yes, what happened was that I had to fill out a form on the third party web site and give them a bunch of information - driver’s license, SSN, but also education, previous employers, job titles, manager’s names, etc. Then a few days later I got an email from the HR person at my new job telling me the third party company was unable to verify any of the information, so could I please send them a copy of my diploma, a letter from my former employer, etc. Basically I had to do all the legwork that they paid for, apart from checking a few databases to confirm I’m not a felon.