I use Windows btw

      • loutr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        Yeah but at this point you’re fighting against the OS, might as well switch to a distro that already works the way you want.

        • cevn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          Yea… switching requires work though. I got enough of that already :D

          • loutr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            3·
            2 years ago

            Sure, that’s why I endured Canonical’s BS for almost a year, but when I started my new job I just installed Arch even though Ubuntu was the “safe” choice.

      • nottheengineer@feddit.deEnglish
        62·
        2 years ago

        Ah yes, vendor lock-in in desktop linux.

        I don’t get why anyone thinks this is acceptable in any way.

        • cevn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          I kinda hate it, but I’m also too lazy to switch on my main desktop. Every new install gets Fedora though.

      • mafbar@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        16·
        2 years ago

        Man, why do people hate apt so much? Maybe because I’m a filthy casual but I never really had any big problems with apt.

        • Sivaru@lemmy.worldEnglish
          132·
          2 years ago

          Compared to Pacman it’s very slow. I had several problems when I used it. but if it’s good for you, then use it.

          • mafbar@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            5·
            2 years ago

            I mean I prefer Pacman too, but yeah, maybe because I don’t use Ubuntu / Debian that much so I can’t really say.

            • Dnn@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6·
              2 years ago

              I like pacman too but I will probably never get comfortable with its arguments. It’s worse than tar which has already become a meme. apt is more intuitive to use.

              • nottheengineer@feddit.deEnglish
                2·
                2 years ago

                After a month of using arch, I’m still considering aliases for pacman.

                At least I can remember “Xtract Ze Vucking File” for tar, but whenever I want to do anything more than -Syu with pacman, I have to look it up.

      • TheInsane42@lemmy.worldEnglish
        101·
        2 years ago

        Correct, apt is awful, apt-get, that’s what you need. ;) You really need to tell apt not to install junk:

        $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00NoJunk 
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";

        I hate yum with a passion, but still wouldn’t touch dnf when I have an alternative. As it earns my keep (alas, no deb based distro at work… yet), I’ve managed to hide all that perfectly in scripting/config management setups.

          • AlpacaChariot@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 years ago

            When you install software, other packages are pulled in and installed. Some of those are necessary dependencies but some are just recommended (but not actually required). This setting makes apt only install the actual dependencies (no extras).

            • mafbar@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              3·
              2 years ago

              I see, that’s why sometimes there are lots of installed dependencies that you don’t really remember needing when you use apt.

  • jrs100000@lemmy.worldEnglish
    393·
    2 years ago

    This sort of stuff always makes me wonder…WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ALL USING YOUR OS FOR?. All I want my OS to do is hold my files, execute my programs and stay the hell out of my way. What could people possibly be doing with their OS that makes version and distro wars worth more than two seconds of your life? Its like arguing about which calculator or plain text editor is best. I dont care. It adds the numbers, it changes the letters, as long as it isnt doing anything else: who cares.

    • nottheengineer@feddit.deEnglish
      10·
      2 years ago

      as long as it isnt doing anything else: who cares.

      That’s a big part of the distro discussion. Ubuntu for example forces snaps down your throat if you don’t pay attention, which usually leads to issues down the line.

      Some people are more extreme in that regard and want their system to do absolutely nothing they haven’t explicitly configured. And there’s a distro for everyone.

    • Daqu@feddit.deEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      Its like arguing about which calculator or plain text editor is best.

      it’s obviously emacs

      • jrs100000@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        That can be nice, but if I actually care about new features in a program Im compiling the RC manually. Otherwise its just more frequent 50GB downloads for some imperceptible incremental change to CUPS and Libre Office.

    • melchior@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      I just wanted something reliable for gaming that didn’t come with a ton of bloat. I settled on EndeavourOS.

    • z00s@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      The less important something is, the more people will argue over it.

      See: high school elections, car brands, toilet paper orientation

  • Joosl@feddit.deEnglish
    261·
    2 years ago

    Would be true if canonical didn’t screw up so much lately. Fedora is the go to for many now

    • mafbar@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      I think that TempleOS belongs to the furthest right of the bell curve. Needs hyper brain to run, understand and appreciate.

  • scytale@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    2 years ago

    This is honestly a timeline for me instead. Started out with Ubuntu, Debian, Elementary, Peppermint; then did Kali for a while for work, then moved on to Antergos, Arch. I eventually got tired of my system breaking every few weeks, and now settled with Mint for the time being because I don’t have the time to maintain a bleeding-edge distro and I just need something that works when I turn it on.

  • ZephrC@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    2 years ago

    Ubuntu ain’t what it used to be. If you want a simple distro nowadays just go straight to the source with Debian. There’s no real benefit to going with Ubuntu anymore, and community distros are just a safer bet. Corporate distros aren’t your friend.

    • KingOfPotatoes@lemm.eeEnglish
      0·
      2 years ago

      So does debian not have like 4 years old packages anymore in stable or do I have to live in bleeding edge unstable?

      • ZephrC@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        There was just a new release, so nothing that old for now, but by the time the next release comes around this one will be getting long in the tooth, no doubt. Debian isn’t for everyone, but if you need the latest version as a native app then you’re not any better off with Ubuntu at this point. Debian is stable and secure and you can use flatpaks, appimages, or even snaps if you’re feeling nasty to get any apps that you really need to be up to date. That’s not what everyone wants, but for those people I’d recommend something like Arch, Fedora, or OpenSUSE, not Ubuntu. Ubuntu has just been neglecting the desktop for a while now, and it shows. They were the best once. Now everyone has passed them.

  • Vexy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    2 years ago

    I started out with Elementary, then went the typical “I use Arch BTW” route (and for a time, Gentoo), and right now I’m happy and content with Fedora’s simplicity

  • Dustin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    Why is a wizard on the right using a nice easy distro? Wouldn’t he be more of an LFS kind of guy?