• psycrow@lemmy.world
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    It’s about time that people understood that “Everything on the internet lasts forever” is a falsehood formed from a Web 2.0 mindset. Now those big Web 2.0 sites everyone thought would dominate the internet forever are dying, and the only thing saving what was on those websites (the internet archive) is being constantly sued by greedy publishers.

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      I think that warning is more about the lack of control you have over your own data. You post a pic or political view online and it will be duplicated before you know it and you won’t be able to delete it on your own terms.

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        Yep, it’s just Murphy’s Law of data: everything you regret posting will be in public archives forever, everything you want to preserve will have gotten deleted the next time you try to find it.

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      The idea of old sites dying is what inspired me to hunt down really old hobby blogs and save up their images. Then contact creators and anybody who replied (sometimes it was a bit of detective work to find an old email) and signed off was reposted on my blog. Those old geocities type websites aren’t going to last forever without maintenance.

      My effort is very small, but I think people should search out Web 1.0 and 2.0 old stuff in their wheelhouse and preferably with original author permission, rehost it.

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        I mentally associate the concept the most with the late 2000’s when Encyclopedia Dramatica (a troll wiki dedicated to making fun of people) was at peak popularity and could ruin peoples lives if an article was made on a person there. All you had to do was type in a persons name on google, and chances are their ED article was one of the first results. But then not even 2 years into the next decade, ED imploded because the site admins wanted the place to be more sterile and profitable, and they were tired of being threatened by lawsuits.

        You could argue that Encyclopedia Dramatica lives on in spirit as Kiwifarms, but at this point Kiwifarms struggles to even remain online 24/7 because they managed to piss off the wrong people.

        Nothing is eternal on the internet. The only way to save information is to actively back it up and maintain it.

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      “Everything on the internet lasts forever” is a falsehood formed from a Web 2.0 mindset.

      What do you mean, my upvotes won’t last for all eternity? AND MY ANGRY DOWNVOTES?!?!

      WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY?

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    I used to get a notification every year for some dude who had posted on reddit that he was alone on his birthday one year. He stopped replying several years ago, but I still messaged him each year at the prompt of remindme. So that’s also a use case.

  • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠@lemmy.world
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    Probably one of the few useful bots ever added to Reddit.

    We didn’t need a million and one spelling, grammar and whatever other stupid bots the place got infected with. Hopefully Lemmy doesn’t end up with them either.

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      Personally, I think the grammar bots fit right into Reddit culture.

      Everyone is a smarty-pants on Reddit!

      I do hope that people respect the instance hosts and go easy on the trivial bots when it comes to Lemmy though.

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        I mean, I like knowing when I’m saying something incorrectly, and learning the correct way to say it. I value communication through text a lot because I have some issues with communicating verbally, so I like to know how to properly write what I want to say. So I didn’t mind the grammar/spelling bots as long as they were polite about it, they were just providing accessibility to knowledge, at least in my eyes. It was the rude or condescending ones I didn’t like.

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        I wish there were more. I just found out at work that “deprecated” and “depreciated” are different words, it was so embarrassing.

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        I always thought it’s funny to see such a spelling bot on linguistics themed subs where everyone was like “fck you descriptivist” and they were downvoted into oblivion

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        I didn’t mind the fact that it was there, I was always just annoyed at how useless the memory hints were. Like yeah, of course I could spell “neither” if I just remember the e comes before the i… that’s the problem.

        It’s like saying “if you want to be rich just get more money” or “NASCAR is easy cuz it’s all left turns”

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            …or when sounded like “ay” as in “neighbor” or “weigh”.

            Actually, let me double check that with my foreign buddies Keith and Heidi, they’ve got eight children who are all cops and busted a major counterfeit heist the other day. Weird, right?

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      That one was good. I also liked the one that counted how many times someone has said the n word, but I do not think the n word is allowed here (which is better).

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        I feel like I haven’t seen a single person use “could of” or “would of” here.

        The defense on Reddit was always “NOT EVERY1 ENGLISH FIRST LANGUAGE”

        I don’t have the largest sample size, but I’ve never met someone who makes this mistake whose first language isn’t English.

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      Personally, I think the grammar bots fit right into Reddit culture.

      Everyone is a smarty-pants on Reddit!

      I do hope that people respect the instance hosts and go easy on the trivial bots when it comes to Lemmy though.

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    It was sort of ambitious for people to think they’d be on reddit with the same account in 20 years

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      I don’t think so, reddit was so dominant that had they simply not decided to anger all their power users, we’d all still be on there like nothing had changed. A good platform has staying power, I’ve been on Steam for 16 years and I have no plans of bailing on it because it’s simply the best gaming platform I’ve ever used. It’s not game lock-in or anything, most of my games I could buy elsewhere or pirate, I just like having the features and all these other ones popping up like GOG Galaxy still aren’t overtaking it despite the good PR.

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        Capitalism killed it. That’s how things go. They are great for a while then get too big and have to keep growing for some reason. The pursuit of perpetual growth ruins everything

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        Agreed. Have been on Steam for almost 19 years. Nothing has really degraded as far as the service goes, and Valve’s approach to listening to community feedback is good. We’ve saw controversy, mainly Paid Mods and CS:GO gambling, both have been taken care of for the most part due to community pushback. I can’t think of a controversy that has made me want to leave the service though. With Reddit, it was a slow decline to its death on July 1st.

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        Yahoo answers held on for decades after it was relevant, I’m sure Reddit will be around in 15 years.

        Sadly, Remindbot will be reminding a ghost town populated only by other bots

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        I suppose I still have an account from 2009 that I don’t ever use. I went through at least two dozen others that I deleted since then though.

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    I think the bot was already down before the blackout. I remember trying to set a !remind me and nothing happened. Then I read somewhere that the bot was now offline.