You could also learn to speak European (the best language)
Ik parlez vouz der Surströmming mio Amico
Syglekogle?
Ahh, kamelåså!
Love how NPR keeps running the story about the French offering researchers priority, completely omitting the fact the program is only for fifteen people.
Nah, learn one of the European languages or go to Canada
ah fuck its george bush all over again
The American brain drain is gonna suck for people living here but is also very justified and deserved at this point.
The Americans have gotten so complacent about being on top of the world that lots of people don’t think there are any real consequences to anything and just wanna fuck around. We used to be at the forefront of research but now nobody with half a brain would want to come here. We’re heading full speed into a century of humiliation and people are just gonna keep doubling down on ignorance and bigotry as things get worse
nobody with half a brain would want to come here.
That is highly dependent on country of origin
An American using the phrase “century of humiliation?” Unlikely…
This is a fair point. We are quite far along on the brain drain already. I suppose I should take the fact that you think I’m too knowledgeable to possibly be an American as a compliment. There are, however, still some intellectuals with a basic knowledge of other countries’ histories left here, the stereotype that we’re all a bunch of backwards hicks and self-centered chauvanists is only mostly correct.
I used the phrase “century of humiliation” intentionally to draw a comparison between the two. If you talk to Chinese people (for example on RedNote) a lot of them will tell you that they care about science and advancement, not just for it’s own sake, but because they have the cultural memory of what happened when they didn’t. The century of humiliation is a big reason why the Chinese have got that dog in 'em when it comes to science, while Americans love toying around with antivax shit and similar anti-science ideas because we’re so used to being on top and none of our actions having consequences.
China had the same kind of backwards traditionalists back in the Qing that we have today, and that traditional approach get steamrolled by guns and battleships. But we never had that experience. So why not fuck around with forcing Creationism into science textbooks? “What’s the worst that could happen?”
Just as the Qing dynasty was committed to doing things their way and refusing to adapt to changing conditions or learning from other countries, you see similar tendencies in the US today. As your disbelief attests, people don’t look to other countries to understand why they do what they do or to take any lessons from their history. And those who do are regarded as traitors or spies, just like those in the Qing dynasty who advocated for studying and adopting Western science were. Really, there are a lot of parallels between the two, imo.
Why did Cassandra go around talking shit about Troy’s defenses? The only possible reasons are that she was secretly a Greek spy, or she was some kind of accelerationist who just wanted Troy to fall for some reason. At least, that’s what people would say about her if she were here today. Truly, she was the first tankie.
don’t be a coward. if you’re going to accuse someone of something say it outright or fuck off. nobody thinks this coy shit is cute.
clarification for Kuori’s statement: Letstakealook accuses someone of being un-American, for using a term that they think Americans are too dumb to know, ironic, coming from a European.
I guess Americans don’t read to even a 4th grade level, I guess?
It isn’t something many Americans would be familiar with nor on the front of their mind to use as an expression. That individual is likely Chinese or has an unusual interest in 19th-century Chinese history for an American. There is no need to be a smug asshole about basic facts.
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I assure you it’s not taught as basic history here. Certain events from the period are discussed, but not with that phrasing.
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I already explained my reasoning, and it didn’t include just knowing what it is. Nice bait with the edit, though.
just because you’re an incurious dipshit doesn’t mean every person who lives here is. some people choose to learn more than the compulsory schooling they received.
It is in the good/mediocre schools.
Source: my school taught about the Opium Wars and one of the most famous descriptions in history
no need to be a smug asshole about basic facts.
:smuglord:
That individual is likely Chinese or has an unusual interest in 19th-century Chinese history for an American.
god, you’re a comedian
unusual interest
It’s superficial simple historical term used for comparison to Qing-era China, for God’s sake.
Hilarious to accuse someone of something based on knowing a phrase, while knowing the phrase yourself lmao
Also, the person you’re responding to never claimed to be American. You are inventing things to argue about.
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I didn’t.
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“We’re headed full speed into a century of humiliation.”
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I’m American and I’ve been saying this with glee for weeks now lol
That sounds rather unamerican tbh.
Ohhh nooo not that anything but that
What aboot Canadian? Much easier
It’s so expensive in Canada, and many of the schools here don’t provide many benefits. My grad school didn’t have housing, so I got fucked over during the housing crisis. The stipend literally put be 1/3 bellow poverty line in my city. Be aware.
I’ll grab my toque while you grab the Timmy’s and I’ll meet you at the snow machines, ya hozer!
Or something like that. I grew up a yooper.
Not to mention a lot closer too eh?
i’m actually curious from science friendos we have here: europe doesn’t have a lot of opened positions in science, even ignoring the fact that tons of science facilities require expensive low-volume stuff (biolabs/cyclotrones/high-precision mechanics/lasers/electronics etc), so expanding them is not that easy as just creating positions
have there been some noises from eu of increased grant funding or something? or what will happen with nih wind down?no need to learn chinese whwn they can just pick a nice European language
Which European country is going to have better funding for research than china?
Even if none do, they still have good funding and they are actually free countries
