Of course no one wants to pay them… But they filter out the toxicity, and pay with their sanity, to make these spaces even enjoyable and usable for us normal people.
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Don’t turn this into Reddit olease. Besides actual trolls are are obvious and literally trying to cause trouble the whole “toxicity” thing is usually always really “I don’t like what they are saying let’s shut it down” look at the rules on Reddit for rant or unpopular opinions you can’t say anything without getting banned. Defeats the whole purpose.
Once you start to go down that rabbit hole, you’ll start to see that Lemmy didn’t really fix any of the problems that a lot of people had with Reddit. Lemmy is just a Reddit clone where anyone can be their own spez.
Unfortunately yes the problems Reddit had are still here. I was hoping there would be clear rules about what is allowed and not and those rules were enforced fairly, and people giving a chance to argue against unfair actions. Apparently that’s not the case. It’s like ancient greece, if you get ostracized if you are unpopular at any moment.
And according to other posts instead of expanding the reach they’re busy reducing the reach of lemmy, De federating sites and otherwise cheering on kicking people off that they disagree with politically. I think that’s a mistake, because there is a lot of agreement on a lot of issues even when we disagree on other issues. And it helps to not withdraw into an echo chamber with an inaccurate View of the situation like everybody did in 2024 when Kamala Harris was anointed without contacts.
The risk is that you’ll end up with people who seek out mod roles for the money, spin up legions of alts (more than they do now) and do all kinds of bullshit to game the system. If there’s a flat payout, a top mod could inflate the team and double(+) dip to make sure they get the pie slice they want. If it’s activity-based, run a handful of bots to break the rules at a time of your choosing and get whack-a-mole points.
If only certain communities qualified for paid moderation (based on activity levels, for example), this could add an incentive to sabotage other related communities and drive traffic to the one a bad actor controls. If all communities qualify, maybe we get massive fragmentation as everybody decides to try and carve out a niche for their mini-job.
That’s just a start, lots of other ways it could go sideways or be manipulated. I think we’re better off with people who want to keep the spam to a dull roar and prevent heated discussions from getting too out of hand because they want to provide people with usable communities instead of dangling a couple dollars in front of them.
The problem with anything and everything is the human element. Adding money to that problem is like adding accelerant to a fire.
We have the voting system to weigh in on what should be more visible and less visible. I want to believe it can work. If I give up on the idea that a crowd can collectively self regulate content without giving all power to a small group, then there’s no point for me to be on lemmy. I can stand sometimes seeing things I don’t want to see if the system generally works.
We see the same posts, and I can block people myself.
But sometimes the posts you remove yourself are quite horrible and disgusting, no?
I never saw any gorish thing so far, only stupid people. Do you have an example?
This place has been spammed to death with child porn on a few occasions
In my experience a lot of toxicity comes from those mods.
Just make lemmy gold and have that essentially be a donation to the commenter, poster, community mods, and instance.
Besides the Lemmy Gold idea, I would also like it if users could pay to send me various other emoji. Maybe have a private Lemmy Gold board so that it’s worth the money?
I mean, the problem with that is how to handle the federation.
I could just make an instance and have it tell all the other instances that I donated 18,360 awards to a single comment, and they couldn’t tell if that was legitimate or not.
Everyone gonna hate this but their is an excellent solution. All lemmy actors have a public Monero receive address associated (ideally through did allowing portability across instances). A lemmy gold activity carries a proof of transaction and each instance checks against the Monero blockchain to validate transaction authenticity.
Now to preemptively defend Monero. No it not destroying the environment its more environmentally friendly than tradition banking. No the fees are not extremes its cheaper than all payment processors. No its not slow bitcoin is slow. No its not a shitcoin scam its the only crypto currency who’s value is backed by real world goods and services (thanks onion marketplaces). Yes it actually private and anonymous unlike all other crypto. No it won’t get worse with more users it has dynamic block sizes. No it doesn’t support nfts all tokens are truly fungible due to real anonymity.
