He’s referring specifically to local RAM used to run local AI models, whichl he argues is unused most of time. Say if you use your local AI for 4 hours a day, it’s idle for 20. Where the same model in a cloud might serve users across time zones 24/7.
It’s a similar argument about private car ownership, where a car might be used 5% of the day for a lot of people while 95% of the time it requires storage space, aka a parking spot somewhere.
The argument makes sebse for some things but not for others.
Take water bottles. Or mugs. Having 15 of them collecting dust in a drawer is suboptimal. Therefore no one should own one and rent it from a muglord.
There’s a balance to be found, and I’d say RAM is more of a commodity than cars are. The fact it’s not 99.999% utilized, unlike a certain someone’s wishes is a feature of life and not a bug of capitalism not yet being post late stage.
You can’t just have RAM sitting idle in your PC, you peasant. You use it, when you’re done with your pc, you take that RAM and give it to Sam. Next time you go buy another RAM and turn on your pc. Rinse and repeat. That didn’t make sense? Yeah, that’s how Sam’s argument sounded to me.
The RAM on your computer or phone has a limited number of cycles in its life. No one would want their car be driven while they aren’t using it, or strangers in their home while they are away. So Sam Altman can fuck off if he thinks he is entitled to use the processing in my phone or computer while I’m not using them
Um, I would absolutely let people drive my car if it was guaranteed to be back before I needed it? What?
The difference is that OpenAI isn’t offering a benevolent cooperative where they share the value evenly, they’re trying to corner the market to extract maximum profit.
OK thanks for the explanation. Still having it not used at all, because the data center isn’t build yet is worse. Also calling it “everybody” is weird. Unless he means phone and PC, and the very specialized AI run on such systems do not require extra RAM.
So he remains a selfish moron.
Companies running their own decentralized AI models on their own servers are the competition. Whining about the competition is also moronic.
Yes, memory prices are affecting a lot more than people who want to run local models on high-memory desktops. That’s a small minority compared to all computer uses affected by the memory prices.
there is nothing stopping him for mounting our electricity costs in order to tap into this ‘unused ressource’. If they are really working for the sake of humanity, nothing is stopping him to support the ressource providers as a kind of community project. Thats what BOINC has been doing for the sake of scientific progress for years.
i mean, if all they are doing is renting the resources in a data center, so can he with ours. They should be fine with not owning things really.
He’s referring specifically to local RAM used to run local AI models, whichl he argues is unused most of time. Say if you use your local AI for 4 hours a day, it’s idle for 20. Where the same model in a cloud might serve users across time zones 24/7.
It’s a similar argument about private car ownership, where a car might be used 5% of the day for a lot of people while 95% of the time it requires storage space, aka a parking spot somewhere.
I mean, most of his money is just idle most of the time. Maby he could let us use it.
He makes a compelling argument that we should take his money. It isn’t being productive, just sitting there.
Give him a few sticks of DDR to compensate.
The argument makes sebse for some things but not for others.
Take water bottles. Or mugs. Having 15 of them collecting dust in a drawer is suboptimal. Therefore no one should own one and rent it from a muglord.
There’s a balance to be found, and I’d say RAM is more of a commodity than cars are. The fact it’s not 99.999% utilized, unlike a certain someone’s wishes is a feature of life and not a bug of capitalism not yet being post late stage.
You can’t just have RAM sitting idle in your PC, you peasant. You use it, when you’re done with your pc, you take that RAM and give it to Sam. Next time you go buy another RAM and turn on your pc. Rinse and repeat. That didn’t make sense? Yeah, that’s how Sam’s argument sounded to me.
The RAM on your computer or phone has a limited number of cycles in its life. No one would want their car be driven while they aren’t using it, or strangers in their home while they are away. So Sam Altman can fuck off if he thinks he is entitled to use the processing in my phone or computer while I’m not using them
DRAM lasts almost indefinitely, you might be thinking of NAND (or nor) flash
Um, I would absolutely let people drive my car if it was guaranteed to be back before I needed it? What?
The difference is that OpenAI isn’t offering a benevolent cooperative where they share the value evenly, they’re trying to corner the market to extract maximum profit.
The same argument can always be made about all rooms unused for 90% of the time in his mansion, but that’s different of course.
OK thanks for the explanation. Still having it not used at all, because the data center isn’t build yet is worse. Also calling it “everybody” is weird. Unless he means phone and PC, and the very specialized AI run on such systems do not require extra RAM.
So he remains a selfish moron.
Companies running their own decentralized AI models on their own servers are the competition. Whining about the competition is also moronic.
Yes, memory prices are affecting a lot more than people who want to run local models on high-memory desktops. That’s a small minority compared to all computer uses affected by the memory prices.
MacOS RAM utilization though
there is nothing stopping him for mounting our electricity costs in order to tap into this ‘unused ressource’. If they are really working for the sake of humanity, nothing is stopping him to support the ressource providers as a kind of community project. Thats what BOINC has been doing for the sake of scientific progress for years.
i mean, if all they are doing is renting the resources in a data center, so can he with ours. They should be fine with not owning things really.