This is some Looney Toons type of of villainy
WOW how much of a scumbag could you possibly get, like, we need to measure this shit because I think this motherfucker is setting some sort of global historical record.
Musk needs to go to prison
There’s a reason the Soviets had gulags.
They were created by people just like Musk.
Never forget that during California wildfires less than 10 years ago, first responders were cut off from communications because Verizon cut them off.
“Oops! It seems you have reached the maximum usage for your plan! Please call a representative to find a plan better suited to your particular usage volume, or text “$5B” to top up with extra credits.”
Things like this should not be privately owned and relied on by militaries, it has this obvious problem, they need a reliable option from EU or Asian country should have one by now. The sooner the world stops trusting usa and fascist owned companies the better as they will betray at the drop of a hat.
That’s why they call it communism and hate it more than they do Satan. Communally owned utilities can’t be someone’s personal money printer, and that’s a problem to them, because they really want that money and power at the expense of the common good long term societal stability.
In my book, if you’re capitalist, you’re fascist. Capitalists have no ideals, no principles, they’re just fundamentally motivated by greed and voracity for more more more forever without any stated win condition. Precisely like cancer.
I miss when I was young and naive and thought the world was basically good. I feel like in today’s world I have to protect my nieces and nephews, and future children from what the world really is, which is just sad.
The only solace I get occasionally is focusing on looking at the stars, and what’s out in space, and the vastness of it all, reminding me every once in a while that what happens on our little slice of the universe isn’t all there is.
The world was basically good because serious people created institutions to make the world good after the world almost destroyed itself with pointless war for two generations in a row. Unfortunately it seems we are more regressing to the mean of the world being shitty again.
And starling is polluting the night sky with millions of satellites.
Enjoy stargazing while you still can. We likely only have a few years left.
Since when? We had the Vietnam war, Korean war, Dessert storm, countless interventions in the middle east. And don’t even get me started on what’s going on in Syria. World wars are flashy. But, we never stopped waging war after that. You sound like a bobble headed naive optimist telling me how great the world used to be after WW2.
The whole World is never great. Parts of it have had great times even when other parts suffer. From a North American viewpoint, their world has been more often good or great in the last century.
The vast majority of everyone wants what’s best for everyone else. We just all have really shitty information about each other.
We’re also dictated by a global system that indoctrinates us in a zero sum competitive and antagonistic mindset, which rewards you every step of the way for succumbing to it like feeding you little pellets like a pigeon.
World is basically good, there is a couple of bad apples that abusing good will of the rest of humanity.
Most people are basically good… to the people that matter personally to them. Unless they’re like Vash the Stampede, a typical person’s umbrella of empathy includes only friends and family they regularly see, not humanity in general.
Covid proved otherwise for me. There’s also countless wars, and dictators throughout history who have proven counter to your point. Just bcz some people are nice doesn’t mean the world is basically good.
What a reeking piece of shit.
A person I actually wouldn’t mind seeing ICE deport…
I fully support sending him to Mars, as long as it’s a one-way trip.
Personally I’d like to see him travel vertically about three feet or so with a rope around his neck. No spaceships needed, we can build those later.
I hope there get to be alternatives to Starlink soon. Ideally it would be a publicly held company that (somehow) limits that no single individual can own more than 1% of the company. Honestly, that’s how all publicly traded companies should be set up!!
I want them all to get scrapped and never used. They are causing significant harm to scientific endeavors that matter an incredible amount more.
Let alone contributing to harmful space debris travelling at insane speeds
One could argue that low earth orbit is a natural monopoly like water pipes, electricity poles or railroads, and should be owned by governments, that could rent bandwidth to companies.
There are a few problems with that, would it be owned by the UN with US, Russian, British, French and Chinese veto powers over its use? Would it just be one country, and then the US would be able to help let’s say Russia by turning down physical speed limits of internet connections for drones cutting out musk from the equation? Would it be based on whose airspace they are in at the time to rent out the data as required, thus stopping Ukraine from doing deep strikes into Russia? Also and most importantly figuring this out would be hard work and politicians are historically lazy on things that don’t affect them personally and why would they fight Elon musk to nationalize SpaceX or the satellites they own for Starlink when they can just sit back and be bribed much more easily?
They could build international hubs that any nation can add to and share the space. They built the ISS and ran it for long enough its technically possible. Not that I think the leaders of this world are capable of being long sighted on anything right now
Allot each country a certain number based off their population with a minimum of 1, and have that country pay for their satellites. Then each country decides what to do with them.
Why doesnt ukraine use EutelSat?
Seems about right.
I think it’s just an excuse, he has interfered before for no valid reason
Yeah, there’s no way one rich man should have so much geopolitical power.
He lives with no valid reason.
I hope there get to be alternatives to Starlink soon. Ideally it would be a publicly held company that (somehow) limits that no single individual can own more than 1% of the company. Honestly, that’s how all publicly traded companies should be set up!!
Comcast tiered service
Musk is charging Ukraine $2500 per month per Starlink terminal, for over 250,000 terminals. Musk is making bank for shitty service (it’s not fast enough for gaming) and then he cuts services for partisan purposes, costing Ukrainian lives.
The upsell maneuver reminds me of when Verizon tried to do the same thing to California wildfire response services when communications cut out during disaster control efforts. That didn’t play well, either.
it’s not fast enough for gaming
Dawg, you need like a 5 megabit connection for online gaming, if even that. Starlink offers multiple times that at the minimum.
I can understand it being too slow for many things, but gaming is one of the worst examples you could’ve possibly given.
Couldn’t find a reliable source for the 250,000 figure. The closest thing I could find was 50,000 in 2025.
I hate this as much as you do, but come on, don’t make shit up.
Download speed isn’t the problem with satellite are you dense?
The co-founder of the Ukraine Defense Fund, which has helped secure Starlink access for the Ukrainian military, told The Atlantic that he estimates there are now over 250,000 Starlink terminals in use across the war zone.
I found the article in The Atlantic (Paywall bypass here):
[Musk’s] company has earned hundreds of millions of dollars from the Starlink terminals operating in the war zone. Liscovich estimates there are well over 250,000 of them. In the past, SpaceX, which runs Starlink, has reportedly charged the Ukrainian government $2,500 per terminal each month, and it has cut off service when bills go unpaid. Earlier this month, when U.S. military officials asked SpaceX about the outages in Ukraine, the company advised switching to an upgraded contract to restore Ukraine’s access, U.S. officials told us. (Musk and SpaceX did not respond to questions for this article.)
As for incapacity for gaming of Starlink, that’s anecdotal, having heard it is a problem from fellow gamers here in the States that depend on Starlink. There’s enough of a lag to disallow for common action games, although this is a known issue consistent with all satellite internet services. Hence the need for rural ISP buildout blocked by the big communications oligopolies (and presently the well-bribed Trump administration)
You’re remarkably antagonistic for a Lemming. Are you sure you’re not a Musk-shill or a bot?
We pulled expensive, heavy copper wire to every rural area in the 1930s-40s, we could pull cheap and lightweight fiber on the same poles easily today.
We paid for it in the 90s. Then telecom companies just didn’t provide the service they were paid to
I found the article in The Atlantic
Fair enough, I couldn’t find that article.
here’s enough of a lag to disallow for common action games
Lag is different from a lack of speed, which that person claimed. Lag = latency, nothing to do with speed.
You’re remarkably antagonistic for a Lemming. Are you sure you’re not a Musk-shill or a bot?
I really really really hate this redditor style tendency to call everyone who corrects facts they want to believe in a shill or a bot. I couldn’t have made it more clear that I’m not a Musk fan:
I hate this as much as you do, but come on, don’t make shit up.
It’s just that I’m overly concerned with facts, likely due to my neurodivergence. These kinds of comments feels kind of ableist, although that again is probably something I might get shit on for, as you’re not supposed to call out ableism on this platform.
I don’t understand this bot thing either. I haven’t seen a single one of these bots you’re talking about. Repost bots, sure, but agenda pushing bots? The entities that push that stuff clearly aren’t interested in this platform yet. On Reddit it’s very obvious.
“Fast” doesn’t just refer to the download speed, it also refers to the latency.
By any competent gamer’s standards, WiFi is slow. Starlink is untenable.
One “special” mind to another, a head for facts doesn’t preclude you from being wrong and/or needlessly pedantic.
Are you really comparing latencies od GEO sattelites 35.000km away from earth to LEO sattelites that stay at 500km?
C’mon, starlink latencies are very close to normal cable internet
Bandwidth doesn’t matter for gaming - latency does. You could have a 100Gbps connection, but if it has a latency of 1000ms then it’s useless for gaming.
Yeah, but I bet those ping times are just awful. And that can definitely interfere with gaming.
I thought so too, then I googled it. It’s actually not a bad latency at all. Better than some cabled connections I’ve used in the past.
Might not be very stable though.
Hmm, that’s somewhat surprising. And agreed on stability being sus.
In the end, though, even if it was a perfect connection, I would never know cause fuck that guy. With a 2x4 with rusty nails in it. Obviously.
Agreed!
