A Illustration of the unrealistic standards that society sets for men

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    Great, seeing a picture of a trans man has made me aware of the existence of trans people, and therefore, according to GOP logic, it’s only a matter of time before I become trans myself and have to fucking go bra shopping.

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        At one point some Greeks were trying to define the word Man, they came up with a featherless biped, and the next day someone released a plucked chicken in the school.

        There are some words that are notorious for being hard to define. What they figured out was for those words to instead build up criteria.

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          Not just someone, the legendary philosopher Diogenes. One of my favorites stories is that one day he was cleaning veggies in a river or something, when Plato walked up and was like “You know Diogenes, if only you could pay taxes to the king you wouldn’t have to wash vegetables.” And Diogenes responds, “You know Plato, if only you could wash vegetables you wouldn’t have to pay taxes to the king.”

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            Some good diogenes sayings:

            (To Alexander the great) “All that I need is for you to move (to stop blocking the sun)”

            “If I were to be anyone, I would be diogenes”

            Don’t forget he was totally fine with just being chucked in a field and eaten after his passing.

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            One of the few philosophers of his time to argue against slavery in any notable form, because he just didn’t care if he pissed off his patrons.

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            I’m here to announce my departure from hearing your dumbass comments as I’m about to block you because I can’t stand seeing people trying to continue normalizing the use of the word based.

            Bye

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              I’m still unsure what it even means. Based in what? Reality, fantasy? It’s clearly a US thing and often seems associated with the more right wing

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                It’s fucking stupid … There’s a story about.it originating with an obscure ass rapper a few years back but I don’t buy that… It’s really from reddit, absolutely right wing, and completely stupid as fuck.

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                  At least base your distaste on reality. The term was born on 4chan back when it had a mostly leftist penchant (around the time the OWS movement was going off). It has nothing to do with “right wing”, that’s just you putting political polarization on everything.

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                  It absolutely was repopularised by Lil B, I was there for it. My understanding at the time was that it was a reclamation of the word from an original slang meaning of being strung out on crack. Lil B was celebrated ironically by the 4channers that later propagated the right wing appropriation of the term. I always interpreted that to refer to being strung out on ‘the red pill’ i.e. being unapologetically fascist.

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        The definition of a man, where it came from, the argument. These people aren’t the educated thinking type.

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    Oh sure, next the fashion and health industrial complex is going to be pushing opposable thumbs… bastards.

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        I can’t, I was banned by the fascists for saying trans men are men. So I had to come here unfortunately.

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          You were banned from all of reddit for having the prevailing opinion when it comes to trans men? Doubt.

          It still doesn’t affect the idiocy of your original post. Maybe check before calling everyone bigots eh? They might just have information you don’t. :) x

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            No, when it comes to “trans women”. Someone needing to have “information” to know someones gender is the whole point. They’re trying to say you have to ignore your own eyes and intelligence and believe some made up story instead.

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              What point do you think you’re making mate…?

              Are you actually gonna go with the idea that knowing information is a bad thing and we should all work off instinct and assumptions instead?

              See any issue with that idea? Might it lead to ignorant comments like yours do you think?

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                See any issue with your idea that you should let “what people tell you” override your own intelligence? Must not have too much of it if you are in favor of that.

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                  I don’t see that point anywhere mate. I do enjoy the irony in your last sentence though, you’re so intelligent that you incorrectly accused a group of people of misgendering someone.

                  Anyway this clearly leads nowhere good, just try and have a think about it buddy :) x

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              So you are saying you must constantly remind yourself and everyone you are talking to of someone’s genitals at birth in every conversation you have constantly or else what - you’ll forget?

              Are you a goldfish?

              People aren’t asking you to ignore your eyes dude. They are asking you to allow people space to use their mental tools so they can more easily get through their day. They are legit telling their friends and the people they are around most what way to treat them will make them happiest to make them the most comfortable to be themselves. When you present yourself as a obstacle to someone else’s joy and/or wellbeing yeah, people treat you like an ass. You are not the arbiter of truth here. People know that trans women were born phenotypicly male. They are just able to prioritize more than “monkey see, monkey speak”.

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                The case in point here is a photo. I have no idea about their genitals, nor what they “identify as”. I see a woman, clear as day. I’m not talking to them, so “what they want me to call them” is not an issue.

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      A lot of pedos are men, the vast majority of those being cis men. Particularly cis men in positions of power, like priests.

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        Bro, wat?

        A lot of pedos are women, the vast majority of those being cis women. Particularly cis women in positions of power, like teachers.

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          I never claimed there weren’t any women who were pedos. But the vast majority of those that are men are, in fact, cis men, not trans men. And of those that are women, the vast majority are cis women, if we’re including women as well.