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I remember I got into an argument on reddit awhile ago with a person over Italian food. It got to the point they were following me into other subs to harass me. I clicked on their profile to block them and their most recent post was them drinking their own piss on r/piss. At that moment I realized I had spent so much pointless time arguing about the taste of food with someone who drinks their own piss as a hobby. This site is a shit hole.
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Humanity is a shithole. Social media is a cross-section.
I hate that pov so much.
Humanity is fantastic, wonderful, loving and amazing. It’s not a shit hole.
I’d argue society is really broken in some places, but not humanity.
As for Social media: it just brings out some dark side in some people. The vast majority of people on social media behave. It’s just that the outliers catch the attention.
I hate this pov so much.
I think it perpetuates that things are better than they actually are and inhibits change and progress… we’re all different I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Fair enough :)
I just don’t see how believing the worst in your fellow human can encourage you to improve things.
Spoken like a true trekkie
Live long and prosper!
believing the worst in your fellow human can encourage you
It doesn’t, it never did, it never will.
But the poster you replied to has a point:
Just like most animals the greater majority of people try to avoid as many direct conflicts as possible IRL. And they’re full of empathy and compassion - even for other animals in distress and inanimate objects (saw off the fingers of a plastic doll in front of others and see how they treat you afterwards).
But of course people will lose a part of that compassion etc once they move within society without feeling like a part of it. One example is driving a car. You’re way less aware of being a part of society even though you’re “swimming” in it. Feeling a strong individual agency and being empowered by two tons of steel while simultaneously being greatly restricted by everyone and everything around you will do that to you.
Same goes for the (social) media landscape. We feel empowered by our own echo chambers and/or chosen media outlet while barely interacting with anyone who could challenge our beliefs (which, funnily enough, is often the right call in that context, because we can’t change strong opposing beliefs via social media). And since it’s all an indirect, mostly faceless interaction, our beliefs will automatically be strengthened and we’ll be more likely to agitate anyone with opposing beliefs (while still avoiding any direct conflict).
So I’d say it’s more of a flaw in our design, that is being exploited, than a general lack of sympathy/empathy (of which we actually have plenty).
Which means you can’t hold any one individual to higher standards. Because that’s not where we “fail”. It’d take a much broader appliance of social securities (housing, food, healthcare, education etc all over the world) and a fundamental change in the way we interact. But you and I won’t change that (though I guess it’s comforting telling ourselves that we could individually change things on a greater scale).
Thank you for being much more eloquent than me.
The average troll wouldn’t be an asshole in real life. They’d likely just be an average bloke like us all that lost theirselves in online anonimity.
Time and time again we see that in many disasters the majority of people in the affected community come together and help each other tremendously.
There is ofcourse always rotten apples and exceptions. That doesn’t take away from the fact that people are inherintly good to their fellow human.
So everyone’s in agreement… humanity is a shithole
If you consider that we are currently destroying our eco system that we need to survive and have known for over 50 years that the co2 levels will cause major issues, but nobody really felt the need to act. And when the countries actually sat together and made the Kyoto contracts the USA steped in and fucks up the whole idea. Thanks Bush you little Oil-fucker!
Considering that you could say humanity is fucked and humans are at fault. And if you look at it the people voting are at fault too, falling for company and other proparganda and voting for a government that fucks them even harder.
I would say humanity as we know it won’t exist anymore in 200 years. War, droughts, floods and shit will get us. Even if we would act now the whole planet would need to cooperate. No Chance!
Again, I’d blame society for that, not humanity.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the actual power in the world lies in the hand of just a fraction of percent of the people. Those asshole ruin it for everyone else.
Doesn’t mean the average human is evil.
Yeah, I know! But do you see anybody care about that? Do the votes for political parties show anything that would mean they don’t like those corrupted bastards?
No! Most people don’t care or think voting for the same parties will change sth.
I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who didn’t care about this besides the one-off sociopaths you encounter on the internet (though I’m fairly convinced that they also care but just feel powerless to change things). The problem is that the priority for most people is not starving to death within the next month, and that makes it impossible to devote time and energy into solving more long term problems.
Worse, the average human is self absorbed and apathetic. This enables all of the truly evil to assert itself. Humanity is the sum of its choices and look where that leads. If it’s a battle of best vs worst natures, it’s become clear what side has prevailed.
it’s like when you cut a tub of ice cream to see the distribution
you can tell a platform hasn’t got a good mix of people if there aren’t any freaks or difficult bastards
It’s ok to be a freak. It’s not ok to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole. We like the weirdos for the colourfulness they bring to our lives. No one likes an asshole.
Keep Lemmy weird. Don’t be an asshole. Live by these rules and this place will always be great.
We all have our moments (or so he tells himself). I’m not advocating being an asshole, but they do make things seem more real. I’ve been in online groups where everyone’s blandly cordial and it all feels lifeless.
You can be a difficult bastard without being mean though, it’s practically my whole job these days.
You’re gradually adjusting.
Actually I think being a difficult bastard, stubborn, or an arsehole is actually needed in certain contexts. Sometimes people are stubborn just because they can, sometimes it’s because they are defending themselves or someone else.
Dog Im on social media because Im the shit in the hole. When Im not on social media Im overall a pretty worthwhile person. Causation not correlation etc.
On lemmy you’re just arguing with the same piss enjoyers without a piss home due to lack of active communities. Lemmy is just ex Redditors acting like they are better than Redditors.
Redditors are cool. It’s the admin that can eat shit. I’d still be on that site if they weren’t greedy fucks.
I can’t imagine thinking redditors are cool. Not even redditors think redditors are cool.
Haha, cool as in I have no beef with them. If you thought I meant “hip” I’ll just say I can’t judge since I’ve been out of that game for a while, as evidenced by my use of “hip” in a sentence.
Not z+“redditors” but the niche communities. But that’s a numbers and patience game and I’ve got time.
What’s a z+redditor? I also don’t fully know what counts as niche. I think I am in a couple of these and there are still assholes, some of which are the most active users or even mods. Some groups are okay but these are the exceptions and not the rules.
can confirm, had 100k comment karma before I left, definitely not cool
Flashback to that one popular post of someone overhearing a guy trying to pick up a girl by telling her how much karma he has on reddit.
It’s a bit of a stretch to say they’re cool. For the most part they’re tolerable.
lmao
hell i’m here specifically because i liked reddit but, y’know, didn’t like the actual reddit platform itself because it’s run by absolute wankers.
On lemmy search for a board and the same community is on every instance. A little bit of r/piss for everyone.
less cookers as a proportion, but far more tankies
Meanwhile on Lemmy, you’ll get death threats for simply stating you’re an arch user.
From who? The Debian Taliban?
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Edit: also, I use Arch.
I use Arch(-based distro), btw
We prefer being called debian fundamentalists, but yes…
I commented that I had switched to Firefox browser from a chromium browser and that I was still using it but really didn’t like it and listed a few reasons why and got more down votes on that single comment than I’d ever gotten total on reddit. The condescending responses were something else. I almost deleted my account, like sorry, I clearly don’t subscribe to the lemmy hive mind, so I don’t belong here. I also don’t have strong feelings about Linux, guess I should get fucked.
As long as you’re not posting toxic stuff, you should just ignore downvotes because many people use them as disagree button instead of replying why they disagree with your points.
Additionally there’s downvote bots. They can even stick around with you. You comment, and a few seconds later you’ve got 25 downvotes.
Well, the good thing about Lemmy is your downvotes don’t add up to some Karma like it did on Reddit. You’re free to state your opinion in one post without having to carry it around everywhere.
The total score is appearently stored on your user somewhere in the database but not displayed… Someone said. They lied?
I would assume it’s a hard thing to implement reliably in a system such a lemmy. You could just spin up your own instance and give yourself a ton of points if you really cared for the numbers.
That’s true… I wonder how it handles downvotes and upvotes on comments or posts, they are also replicated right? What if some instance goes into the db and changes those numbers?
Then it’s only changed on their instance. They’d need to create fake users and send votes for them. At that point others should be able to detect it as botting, at least if the impact is big enough.
You can do local counts as the instance owner can see that but afaik the who voted doesn’t federate. Might be wrong I need to go back through the docs.
If you were on a linux or heavily privacy focused community, that’ll do it. I don;t mention that I use windows, I just say I’m looking into the swap to linux.
Which is weird because majority of the gaming and corporate world runs on Windows. I dual boot my systems so I have both available.
I posted a link in !technology@lemmy.ml about how mozilla had ruined firefox, damm got a hell lot of downvotes and a bunch of comments who hadn’t even watched the video going ‘hurr durr google baddd’
Firefox not having tab grouping native on mobile is the sole reason I won’t switch from chrome, i run adGuard as a vpn anyway so nothing google is doing will affect me.
But also - 20 is rookie numbers, i think i broke -400 on one of my reddit comments years ago, I don’t even remember what I said, I don’t think it was even political as I lean pretty left.
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You can tell you’re perfectly in touch with the Lemmy use base by how your comment claiming they all are evil and hate you is upvoted a lot.
Reminds me of the “Everyone on reddit is a fucking moron” style posts and comments on reddit that would have like 10k up votes lol. I think the reason for it is everyone thinks they’re the exception
I use Arch btw
go sudo pkill yourself
The program go is not installed. Install it by executing:
pkg install golang
What… That hasn’t happened to me at all.
Arch btw.
I use Arch btw.
Not being an Arch user, I see that trend as redundant.
If half of what is said about Arch is true, the system by default tries to kill the user out of sheer exhaustion from keeping it running.
Or a windows user…
True I have yet to see Lemmy being any better. Although it’s good to see that even libtards are fleeing from Reddit.
You look lost try /c/politics
Reddit teaches you to not argue with people more than absolutely necessary. It’s a waste of time. Just stop responding to them if you don’t want to talk.
no it doesn’t
Yes it does
Nuh uh
En garde!
I paid for an argument, this is just contradiction!
This is just generally true of the internet as a whole
Bro imagine having the balls to give someone shit about taste while drinking your own piss
Seriously, what an asshole. Italian food is the tits.
You do realize this is a fake story right?
Nothing ever happens, and everyone is a bot but you
Solipsistic crisis intensifies
Yeah but I’ve met people who do similar things.
Knew a guy who would regularly eat what he called “hot sauce sandwiches” literally just bread with hot sauce on it.
He made fun of me for putting ketchup on my fries 🫠
This is so fucking funny, thanks for reposting, OP. Rest in piss angry stranger.
The site seems more like a piss hole.
Technically, this sub is a shit hole.
Does anyone hear remember r/sinkpissers?
Sadly, yes. Also r/sounding…
Man we got some seriously screwed up people in this world.
One of those is just weird unsanitary behavior and the other is a kink to some.
Are you really going to conflate kink shaming and misbehavior shaming?
Pissing into the sink is hot… that was the kink, right?
I’ll upvote you for the point you’re going for. I didn’t wanna dig this one up, but if the community still exists, go get some eye bleach…
r/makemesuffermore
F Reddit and F Spez
Sounding is just a kink. A really weird one, but a kink nonetheless. Think it’s really just an alternative way to pleasure the prostate or something?
If yah want the actually fizzityucked urethral insertion subreddit you had to go to r/peehole. Which is the second subreddit to permanently traumatize me enough to stop using r/randnsfw.
Oh sweetheart, if you think sounding is a “really weird” kink, you need to get off the internet yesterday to preserve your innocence. Putting things in your (or any) dick for pleasure is nothing compared to, say, hard vore, gore / mutilation, or edge play.
I have some weird kinks, but sounding is about as vanilla as they come. As long as you aren’t using a rose stem or something…
wait edge play is what you consider hardcore? that’s more vanilla than sounding to me
I think you’ve got the term mixed up; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgeplay
I find it weird, but it’s not like it really bothers me at all. Same with guro, it’s weird, but just makes me go “whatever”.
Seeing a woman shove both a buttplug and a penis up her urethra however? That does make me question things…
I guess the first time wasn’t enough hahaha
God nooooo not sounding
What… went on in that sub?
People pissing in sinks believe it or not.
Which is pretty bitchin’ really, it’s like a poor man’s urinal.
Haha hey I’ve had to piss in a sink once or twice
More than once I had someone being an arse to me on reddit, I took a gander at their profile to see what kind of fucko I was dealing with… and it was full of their nudes.
One time it was someone who lived in the same town as me.
Yeah… your insults and comebacks don’t hit quite as hard now that I know you’re desperate for people to see your vagina.
Slight hints of misogyny? What’s wrong with people showing off their bodies if they feel like it?
Siiiigh, would it help if I said penis? The last time this happened, it happened to be a woman.
And it’s pretty obvious when someone starts shit with people on the Internet for no reason, then posts their uglies all over the net, that they’ve got a pretty juvenile issue with attention-seeking behaviour in general.
Quite a stretch, my guy.
And no, it would not have helped in the slightest. What people do on the internet is their business - if they feel like posting nudes, so be it. But that does not magically invalidate their opinion(s) in an argument, “juvenile” as they be.
This more so proves your “juveniless” (I hate even using this word) that you try to dig up non-existent dirt on people to crap on their opinions and statements.
Speaking of people who start shit for no reason, invent grievances, etc…
Scroll up, the last guy tried your latest tactic already. Insults and comebacks =/= arguments.
I responded. Feel free to disprove my thesis that you’re a fucking moron.
Wait, you think someone getting naked invalidates their argument?
If someone is a jerk. I block them. Life is to short for trivial people.
I’m here for discussions and not name calling or bad behavior.
In before “silencing people just creates echo chambers!” (ignoring the fact that I silenced nobody)
For those who are thinking this I have a simple question: When was the last time you invited someone that called you a slur out for a beer so you can “better understand their position”?
I don’t silence people who disagree with me. That’s an echo chamber. I silence those who can’t have a conversation. I wouldn’t invite those people out for a beer, you don’t feed the trolls.
Most my friends have differing opinions than I do. That’s cool. If they just wanted to hurl insults, I’d have nothing to do with them.
I add to that with: When was the last time you and your social circle IRL let someone with contrasting ideas hang out with you? Echo chambers are inevitable every space humans congregate and share ideas.
The most basic tribe of our ancestors is an echo chamber. That’s where religions and cultural traditions were born. They echo themselves so much that a belief system is born and passed on to new generations.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s. We only serve Shit Posts here, we don’t offer drinks.
On a side note, that piss drinker’s username wouldn’t happen to be u/spez?.. 🤔
😂🤣 … 🤮
Lololol imagine thinking lemmy is better than reddit for those reasons 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The people with the presence of mind, principles, and ability to leave reddit so seem to be better. I tend to like posts here better. That’ll change as better clients, more users and better stability come online though.
I think my favorite example of this was when you’d go to type up a big-ass, well-thought-out reply, but before hitting submit you check their history. Lo and behold, a non-insignificant amount of it is full of comments on loli porn and the darker NSFW subs. And here they are trying to claim the high ground.
Block and move on.
I tried that, that’s how I found out that the amount of blocked accounts you can have is finite.
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I think about this post often and whenever anyone disagrees with me online I like to assume they are a piss drinker too.
I disagree.
PS. Follow me for best piss tastings in town.
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