• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 months ago

    I mean factor 2 is a bit much but if you want everyone to finish roughly in the same time frame distribution, you either have to do a shorter route or have the women start earlier. Otherwise you will have a decent time gap between male and female race finishers, which looks even worse if u ask me.

    Gender equality is usually not about physical performance because everyone knows that there is a gap there that wont go away anytime soon. Its about socioeconomic factors like pay, medical issues, etc

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      7 months ago

      But why have routes based on gender? They could just have had two routes to choose from and let it be up to the individual.

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        Are u one of those “statistics and math are sexist and racist” people? Ask any athletic trans person that is on HRT, they will tell you how much of a difference it makes. Of course there are more and less athletic people and training can get you really far, but there are limits to how far that will take you.

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          Ok, I will. hey me are u a little weakling after starting hrt? No. Thx me! But seriously, there is more variation between individuals than the two data sets as a whole in almost every biological data point. As any biologist\medical researcher will tell you. No I don’t think statistics and math are sexist and racist. But I am aware of the fact that people in power will use them along with bad science in general to popularize and legitimatize their ideology. Also gender doesn’t equal sex and hormones are not the only determiner of sex.

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            I didnt say you become a weakling on MTF HRT, but in races specifically you need every little bit of power and endurance you can get. A few percent points make the difference between winning and completely average performance. Its not fair and i agree that we have to treat this knowledge with care so that it doesnt get abused for shitty ideology, but ignoring it in cases like this isnt always the smartest move.

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              7 months ago

              This a for charity run. There is no need to force all women to run a shorter route on the idea of less athletic aptitude. The idea that every woman who is a top athlete would be bested by a man with same training and diet is beside the point, and also not proven by research and is almost impossible to set controls for.

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                “Cash prize” requires some amount of fairness, and when a fairly average male time can beat world record female times, having them classed separately makes a lot of competitive sense.

                It’s somewhere between a fun run and a professional race.

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    7 months ago

    That’s why it’s a bad idea to do a “gender equality” athletic competition for money. You always just end up proving that athletic men are more physically capable than athletic women. It’s 1 of the only 2 things where the biological gender differences are not equal. In evey other aspect of life, gender differences aren’t relevant and everyone can be equal.

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        7 months ago

        Haha! Yeah that’s the one.

        I mean, if you ignore the fact the guys can have very high voices, and girls can have very low ones, and that voice training is a thing that anyone can do, and HRT actually has a pretty big affect on voice…

        But yeah, let’s go with that >.>