privileged people don’t see themselves that way. they don’t see buying starbucks as a choice, they see it as a necessity for living. the choice to make coffee at home does not exist for them. they also would not want to associate with someone who makes coffee at home, because that’s what poor people do and the last thing they would ever want to be like is a poor person.

the price increase of SB to make addicts stop buying it would have to be massive, like double or triple, not a 30% increase.

It’s much easier to complain about things than do anything about them. It’s also a good way to make friends, misery loves company.

mods are people. people are corruptible.

growing up in a poor shitty down full of assholes, and being smart and driven enough to get myself out of there.

and now i am middle aged and while in my 20s and early 30s people thought what I did was positive, now people I meet hold it against me in the worst way. It’s so fucking weird, but I guess as people age they basically revert to being judgemental weirdos who think your family/birthplace is the single determining factor of who you are. the amount of nastiness people direct towards me when they find out how I grew up is shocking and disgusting and vile.

I also went to a famous university and the whiplash you get from how people react to that vs my birthplace is just… well basically it makes you a total misanthrope because people are so awful about it. It’s very rare I meet anyone who doesn’t give a shit about either of those things about me, and those are the people I actually enjoy interacting with.

personally i thought i lived the american dream, but man other people are very very hostile to you, especially because I guess I went from rags to merely middle class, not riches.

The issue is insular identity groups tend to be assholes towards anyone who isn’t like them. The have a circle the wagons mentality, and develop outsized hostility towards people outside the group.

When you are in a more diverse space, people don’t get this luxury as much. They have to moderate their attitude and behaviour because they can’t just dismiss and demonize everyone who isn’t like them. As a group becomes more insular, this starts to erode and self-selection happens where moderate folks don’t want to be around the miserable angry identity focused people. Eventually a tipping point hits and the diverse space becomes highly insular and ever it’s members more extreme and becomes totally hostile to diversity.

That’s a well-documented psychological/anthropological thing in real world and online communities. And it’s happening in a lot of places, especially those that were previously bastions of diversity and inclusion, like college campuses and online communities.

And SF suffers from the same issue as where I live, the population is very insular in terms of demographics and identity. You can’t live here anymore unless you make like 100K+ a year, which severely restricts the types of people who can live here to very similar demographics.

Fedi was built on the same premise that makes all tech products fail:

The idea that people will behave themselves and act in good faith.

They won’t, and they don’t. And it only takes a handful of bad actors to ruin it for everyone else.

I live in a city full of wealthy progressive liberals who talk like that non stop. Everything is awful all the time and if you don’t agree you’re awful too. if you point out annoying good happening they will tell you how awful it is or it’s colonialism or imperialism.

their second favorite topic is what smart geniuses they are and how everyone else should be like them. and nobody else has had a harder or more difficult life than than did, because their parents only made 500K a year! and now they only make 200K a year! they are living in poverty!!

i have lived here 20 years and 10 years ago it wasn’t like this… because it was more diverse and people were not so self absorbed.

i’ve been here for 3+ years.

no amount of following/blocking can ever combat the endless need of average users to post ragebait slop for clicks, and constantly play morality police for everyone else here who doesn’t 120% agree with their ignorant viewpoints about the world.

this place is reddit-lite now. give it another 5 years and it will be reddit all over again. people do this shit to themselves.

we aren’t ever going back to the internet where you could be chill, folks don’t want it that way.

yeah, it’s pretty chill if you block 90% of the content and only focus on the 10% of communities that about something other than how oppressed and doomed they are.

yeah, but if we believe hard enough in communism or similar, the world will be a magical paradise where money grows on trees but also nobody will ever need it, or something.

clearly the issue with all of society is people not believing hard enough in the ‘right way’.

most news/politics communities here are nothing but doomerism.

i like news and politics but I can’t do it here because it’s so insanely one-sided doomerism to the point it’s just vomit-inducing. Nothing good ever happens to anyone, according to the lemmy view of these things.

a reddit clone that’s fairly active, but small. the admin personally controls it, there are no mods.

I was on it for a few months before one comment got me drive by banned by the mod because ‘you are stupid’.

mod basically bans anyone they don’t like and refuses to allow any topic they don’t like. and a lot of people there seem to enjoy being under a ‘positivity’ dictator. it’s a fairly culty space and they enjoy jerking themselves off about how sophisticated they are.

No, it’s hardwired behavior. all animals want to use less energy when they can.

the only weirdos are the ones who expend tons of energy on unproductive useless stuff, like running marathons, biologically speaking.

You think Microsoft considered you a stakeholder when they released MS-DOS in 1981?

Customers aren’t stakeholders. They are customers. Your understand of economics and business here seems to be a lot of idealistic projection about how things should be, not how they are/were.

No idea what you are on about. Every product I use in the IT space is continually getting better than it previously was. Just because folks are mad things like subscription models doesn’t mean they are offering an inferior product. You never owned software in the first place, it was always a limited license. True that the ‘illusion’ of you owning it is gone in a subscription model because it’s no longer on a physical disk, but legally it’s the same.

What customers want is irrelevant and often erroneous. Most of my users say they want x, but if you given them x they freak out, and if you give them y they are happy, because well, they don’t know what they want and they especially don’t know what is good for them. It’s my job as their admin to make those choices for them. They mostly just hate change, even if the change benefits them overwhelmingly and have nostalgia for old inefficiencies that benefited nobody.

You’re confusing technology and politics.

Tech is always getting better. You just are getting as many of the fruits of those advancements due to politics and economic policies deriving form those politics.

analog wasn’t better, it was that economic policy was different. the 1980s economy was vastly different than the economy we have today.

but keep insulting me if makes you feel better I guess? clearly I’m ignorant and if we go back to tapedecks instead of spotify that would somehow mean billionaires would stop existing or something… I mean, yeah, please go out and buy one of those retromod tapedecks they sell on for $200 if you want, that will surely ‘show’ Bezos or something…

No.

Convenience is king.

Analog tech is inherently slower, more expensive, etc.

This is like asking if farming by hand is better than farming using machinery.

The only reason people think this is way is because they didn’t live through analog tech, for them it is retro or nostalgia and they romanticize it because when they do use it, there are no downsides.

Just like the people who think farming by hand is better than farming with machinery are people who don’t farm, or they are those investment banking types who ‘retired’ to go start a farm in upstate NY for fun and pretend it’s a viable commercial enterprise.