• AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
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    I generally consider “OC” to mean specifically that it’s original - you didn’t get it from someplace else, so broadly yes if you’re the one who had it generated.

    But if it’s a community for art or photography generally, I don’t think AI art belongs there - the skills and talent required are just too different. I love AI art communities, I just think it’s a separate thing.

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      2 years ago

      But following that logic “OC” would mean you didn’t get it from “someplace else”, but since AI is trained by looking pieces made by other people to learn, it technically did get it from someplace else.

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    “Original Content”.

    Is it content? Yes.

    Is it original? That depends on the context. What do you ask about, in what context? Where is it placed? Which AI? How was it trained? How does it replicate?

    If someone generates an image, it is original in that narrow context - between them and the AI.

    Is the AI producing originals, original interpretations, original replications, or only transforming other content? I don’t think you can make a general statement on that. It’s too broad, unspecific of a question.

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      You absolutely can make a general statement. Humans don’t make original content if you don’t think AIs do. The process is basically the same. A human learns to make art, and specific styles, and then produces something from that library of training. An AI does the same thing.

      People saying an AI doesn’t create art from a human prompt don’t understand how humans work.

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    The way you put original content in quotes is weird.

    OC as an acronym typically just means something that someone made. In this sense, yeah, if you make something with AI then it’s "your OC’.

    Original content used as the words generally means something slightly different and it’s more debatable.

    Having used AI art tools there is more creativity involved than people think. When you’re just generating them, sure, there’s less creativity than traditional digital art, of course, but it is not a wholly uncreative process. Take in-painting, you can selectively generate in just some portions of the image. Or sketch and then generate based off of that.

    All that said though I don’t think “creativity” is necessary for something to be considered OC. It just needs to have been made by them.

    Would you call fan art of well known characters OC? I would.

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    Steam bans games that contain such AI content because they are not near OC. Except you train the AI on only your own Copyrighted Images, which mid journey and various other AI aren’t. They are all trained on copyrighted images without asking.

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      They accept it when you trained on data you had the right to [train and republish on]. That isn’t limited to only your own content.

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    That’s an interesting question. I haven’t spent very much time thinking about how to define AI art. My immediate thought is that AI art can be OC, but it should also be labeled as such. It’s important to know if a person created the content vs prompting an AI to generate the content. The closest example I can think of is asking someone to paint something for you instead of painting it yourself.

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      What about humans who do original work in the style of someone else? Monet is usually credited with creating the first impressionist work, but does that mean we should discount the impressionist paintings of Renoir and Degaus?

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    It depends. Did they really train a model and try a long time until something great came out? Yeah, definitely.

    Did they take a real image as a basis and just let one or two iterations of a filter run over it? Nope.

    The latter is how most people get those super realistic pictures without having a supercomputer or waiting a long time. They are basically faking.

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    It’s new, but not original. With the recent influx of AI content that doesn’t seem to be slowing down, I’d say we should make a new designation of GC - generated content.

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    Sure. It’s art just like many digital tool assisted products came before it. Is it always difficult art to make ? No but who cares. It’s OC as long as the source of this AI art is the person posting.

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      There are levels to everything. People have a very shallow understanding of how these tools work.

      Some ai art is low effort.
      Some ai art is extremely involved.

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        It can often take longer to get what you want out of it than it would’ve to have just drawn it. I’ve spent 8 or 9 hours fiddling with inputs and settings for a piece and it still didn’t come out as good as it would have if I had commissioned an artist.

        I’ve been using it to get “close” then using it as a reference when commissioning things

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    Depends on how it’s synthesized. Some programs, like Midjourney, allow you to use to your own art as material to synthesize new art.

    Aside from that, no. It’s not OC.