Does it even make a difference? Would much appreciate some suggestions.
Might i recommend lemmynsfw.com?
hexbear.net, lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, easily the best instances.
Even if you truly believe that, just saying that without talking about those instances’ reputation seems… unhelpful, at best. You’re telling someone to join hexbear without telling them how many instances have defederated from it.
The reputation is only positive in my view.
Yes, of course you people like it but the rest of us for sure aren’t switching to worse instances.
What kind of people am I?
You know…
No, please, go ahead.
A marxist-leninist
Marxists tend to like all 3 of those instances, those who don’t like Marxists tend to hate them. As a Marxist, they are by no means “worse instances,” I much prefer them.
Also, what do you mean by “you people?”
People are recommending all sorts of instances without telling them how many instances have de-federated from them and if they’re federated with hexbear etc.
You only focus that criticism on this suggestion because you are obviously one of the people who don’t like hexbear and want to frame your critique of the suggestion as more reasonable/less biased.
What exactly is the “reputation” hexbear has anyway? Being based?
Those three instances are a lot more controversial than most, and I’m not gonna argue with you if you’re gonna pretend to not know that.
“Controversial” in that Marxists tend to support them, and those opposed to Marxism don’t. It’s as simple as that, really.
Controversial in the view of liberals and conservatives.
“My specific bias alone is justified in a way that conveniently doesn’t even bear explaining.”
Controversial amongst whom and for what reasons?
Without providing that context your critique is “…unhelpful at best”
Edit: to be clear, Hexbear is a large and active instance, so if you value their content (as I do) other instances being de-federated can be just as much, if not more, a mark against those instances. Hence why it matters who deems them controversial and why.
I don’t personally know who they are federated with, but as someone who’s only used Lemmy.ML, I can interact with their instance and I can interact with many (if not most, idk) other instances (.World, .Zip, Lemmygrad, DBzer0, etc). So if they are de-federated with those instances and you want to see both Hexbear and them, maybe come to Lemmy.ml.
Side note: is there a way to track de-federations aside from just searching for communities hosted there from within your instance?
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Nah, I agree. Hexbear is probably my favorite out of the 3, but all are good instances.
Recommended the 3 worst ones
I disagree, the users on all three have been nothing but supportive and wonderful to me.
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db0 works for me.
oh, I assumed it was a community for Dragon Ball Z fans.
Communities about Anarchism, Generative AI, Copylefts, Neurodivergence, Filesharing, and Free Software.
This sounds like me. Well, apart from the generative AI thing. Let’s see what the dominant stance on it is first
They are pro-ai-the-technology, they’re not on board with the big Ai companies.
The Voyager app now defaults to lemmy.zip. I really like sh.itjust.works fwiw.
I’m thinking between Zip and db0… I can’t decide 😁
I was too comfortable with lemme.ee (AKA less drama overall than your favorite Lemmy instance) but now I need to deal with this…
Well, I knew from the beginning, that the fediverse works this way, if any we should be grateful we were given a good window to migrate (former fmhy user here lol), and honestly it makes sense, each instance can’t last forever… Not even big sites like Reddit will.
I also can vouch for sh.itjust.works. They have a fair defederation policy and has only gone down a couple times in the two years I’ve been using it. When it has the admin has been quick to address it and provides updates via a matrix chat.
The one downside is that some more niche domains have
degenerateddefederated (thanks autocorrect) from us due to the open enrolment we have (beehaw comes directly to mind). I recall someone linking a website that tracked what servers are federated with each other but I can’t find it now unfortunately.I recall someone linking a website that tracked what servers are federated with each other but I can’t find it now unfortunately.
I went here after i read .ee is shutting down , most of the stuff i followed back there i can follow from here
have you checked out the porn one? some guy posted like 20 pictures of his dick
Was that someone you?
One thing you should do is grab your data for easy moving, you haven’t already.
Assuming you’re using the default Lemmy web UI (not Voyager, or Photon, or a mobile app, or whatever), click on your username in the top right, and select “Settings”.
On the settings page, there’s a section called “Import/Export Settings”. Click the “Export” button and let your browser download the file.
Then, when you switch instances, you can go into the same Settings page on the new instance, select the file you downloaded, and hit “Import” and you will automatically be resubscribed to the communities you subscribed to.
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What do you look for in an instance? Many different instances with different uses and needs.
Where would I find a way to know if an instance aligned with what I wanted or not? I’m supposed to personally find and explore a bunch of different ones?
There’s the “Join Lemmy” tool that shows a list of instances, you can click on them and see if they fit what you want.
Does it really matter where you go? It’s all federated together anyway, that’s the whole point, isn’t it?
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It’s not all federated together, Lemm.ee is more broadly federated than Lemmy.world, as an example. Lemm.ee can see Hexbear and Lemmygrad, you cannot, as a quick example. Federation and defederation policy dramatically impacts the experience.
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Many instances are specialized, like Lemmygrad with Marxism-Leninism, slrpnk.net with Solarpunk, mander.xyz with science, Hexbear as a left-unity instance, etc. Browsing locally is a fun experience for those into the instance subject.
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Some instances have only upvotes and no downvotes, some don’t show vote totals period, or have other front-facing features. Some offer emojis, like Hexbear.net.
And more! All good reasons to put some thought in.
Wow, thank you! I didn’t know it was like that. I also didn’t know that what I was reading as nonsense slarpnik is “solaspunk” and I still have no idea what that is but I’ll google it. Never heard of Mander either, want to check out whether that’s useful to me. Thanks!
No problem! Solarpunk is an aesthetic-based social movement surrounding solar energy and climate activism, in a short descriptor. You can see the instance to see what I mean.
Here’s a tool to find instances. I recommend sorting by most active, and checking whichever looks interesting to you.
Which would you say is the most neutral/ open to anything? Or I guess most federated?
Lemmy.zip is a common broadly federated instance I think, but really, I’d suggest looking into instances aligned most with the type of content you like to see.
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https://lemmy.zip/ is the closest imo.
I see a few people recommending lemmygrad, lemmy.ml and hexbear, I don’t really think you’d enjoy those servers too much unless you are interested in leftism/communism.
also, people will assume you’re a tankie just because your name ends with .ml 😞
Only CIA.World users sauy that stuff.
cia.world gave me a giggle
problem being?
I catch strays because I’m on .ml but I’m not a tankie (I’m left libertarian like Chomsky)
I think everyone who sees Chomsky in a positive overall light should read On Chomsky.
What if I just really like Captain Fantastic?
Tankies are delulu
Marxists tend to be consistently correct and ahead of the curve, thanks to the analytical tool of Dialectical Materialism.
Marxists aren’t the same as tankies
“Tankie” is a pejorative for Marxist, just like “commie” and “pinko.”
Tankies are a specific type of internet communist that support oppressive, authoritarian regimes.
most coherent dronie joins the discussion
I’m a part of Lemmy.zip for a few months now. Great server with transparent admins who post about server updates and such. It’s tech-oriented as an instance, but it’s federated, so you still have access to all other servers. I’m a computer nerd, hence why I picked it.
Anything a bit more…centrist, so to speak?
Lemmy.zip was the centrist rec.
Lemmy.world is the largest instance, for what it’s worth.
This is a good reason to choose another instance imo. It’s best that we not have all our eggs in one basket, so to speak.
Just keep in mind you might have to instance hop again if your chosen instance goes down, but that’s OK.
Hmm. Do any of the apps allow you to seamlessly manage more than one?
Most do yes, since that’s how Lemmy works in general
The default web frontend has no such provision. If SDF is down I have to go and navigate to my backup instance like a peasant.
Maybe I should switch to an app. The only trick is that I’ll have to hack it a little bit to make sure it always launches over Tor. Unless I get on Qubes soon.
Well yeah a web front-end wouldn’t have that as it’s intrinsically tied to the instance lol
Most Lemmy apps support switching quickly between instances.
In theory, this could ease the transition when an instance closes, I guess.
In reality, the Internet is for pornography.
It presumably makes it easier to quickly switch between porn-free and porn-full subscription sets.
I say “Presumably”, because I’m above all that… here on my non-porn account.
Plus…there’s probably someone here who carefully separates their Linux Lemmys into one account and their railway and mass transit news Lemmys into another.
Good to know!
Tried registering with lemmy.ml but it seemed the weight and burden of my user was too much to deal with. Registration denied with no justification so it seems this instance is not welcoming new users.
Justification was given: you have to actually answer the sign-up questions.
Thank you for confirming. As a new instance applicant, no information was provided on the rejection reason and was left with uncertainty.
Apologies for not fulfilling the requests. From my perspective, I’m on lemmy to avoid a corporate environment. However, the requests seemed a bit too corporate, akin to a cover letter to a job application (why I’d like to join the instance and which communities I’ll participate in). Also don’t feel like sharing personal information about my username.
If the intention is to weed out problem users there’s a way of checking a user’s post and comment’s history.
None of this matters, you’re free to accept and deny at will and I simply fedback my experience.
no information was provided on the rejection reason
Information has been provided since 2022, though you perhaps didn’t notice it or are using a Lemmy client that doesn’t display it: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2191
I signed up on the browser. The error message I see is below which is scarce on details. ¯\(ツ)/¯
And thanks for taking time to reply, appreciate it.
Interesting! This may be a regression bug.
Edit to add: I just tested it myself, and can confirm that the problem exists in the 0.19.12-beta version that lemmy.ml is currently running. Thanks for your help.
Happy to have contributed with some value out of my application and exchanges!
Signing up on .ml is signing up for censorship
By censorship do you mean curated content? I’ve my own filters that I apply and have no concerns with instances having their own criteria. There are also legal boundaries such minimum age criteria, content type, etc…
Nah just words. Can’t call something bitchin’ on ml. The stuff you talk about is reasonable to not allow!
ok boomer
I see. Not aware on what happens on each instance. I guess their house their rules. Always another instance to join or can create your own.
The only difference is the administration of the instance (their activeness, beliefs and how they choose to moderate), what instances they federated or defederated with (like hexbear and lemmygrad), and what features they’ve chosen to implement or not (like downvotes). For casual use, it probably doesn’t make a difference.
I’m just now realizing my primary account is here on .ee as well. I have one with lemmy.one and midwest.social but I’ll probably make a new one somewhere else like dbzero unless they’re still federated with hexbear since .one doesn’t use downvotes and I have constant connection issues with midwest.social.
unless they’re still federated with hexbear
coward
I was under the impression that any server will have access to any instance? Is that not the case? Do some of them limit ? I would we looking for the one that limits nothing
Many block only hexbear and lemmygrad because they are just propaganda machines. Mostly they were left unblocked until their users started to invade other instances to spread their blatant propaganda.
I think if it like an ad block. On lemm.ee, I blocked them both on my own anyway because I found them obnoxious.
If you go to the main page website of an instance and scroll all the way to the bottom, there should be an “instances” button that will tell you which instances are federated and which are blocked. I figure the default page is like lemme.ee/instances or sopuli.xyz/instances for example.
edit: I’ve upset the .ml Also, you’ll see most have chapo.chat is also on the blocked list because it is Hexbear when Hexbear lost their server or something
No greater sin than being right too early
Counter-hegemonic ideas are “propaganda”; hegemonic ideas are just “common sense”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony
Mostly they were left unblocked until their users started to invade other instances to spread their blatant propaganda.
isn’t the entire point of a federated platform that you’re going to be able to access other instances?
istg people hit the block button like they’re mashing the independent thought alarm
isn’t the entire point of a federated platform that you’re going to be able to access other instances?
Yes, but the point isn’t to connect to every instance.
Curated instances and smaller networks within the fediverse were always thought of.
Yeah, but it’s weird to be complaining about people using /all and finding content, calling it “invading”
It does appear that way, and there are some cases of it happening, but doesn’t servers blocking hexbear solve the problem of people complaining about it, for people on hexbear?
I mean this was a .ee user complaining about seeing people they’re federated with, I’m sure they will be more happy in one of the more liberal echo chamber instances
Every web forum is a propaganda machine, the whole point of a web forum is to convey ideas and information.
That’s not what happened, actually. Hexbear, for example, wasn’t federated with anyone for years until it started federating, and servers like Lemmy.world defederated before being federated. Lemmygrad.ml is fairly broadly federated, but gives the illusion of being widely defederated because Lemmy.world also defederated from them, as Lemmy.world admins are anti-Marxist (just read the reasons they gave for defederation).
They aren’t any more or less propaganda than other instances, they are different in alignment, ie Hex is Anarchist/Marxist (general) and Lemmygrad is Marxist-Leninist.
