why do you people love celebrities so much?
if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy
You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.
It’s like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it’s hard to laugh at him now.
Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me…
Let’s pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?
I completely agree with you that it’s is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver… obviously the rapist thing goes too far
The audience can make up their mind on how to enjoy entertainment without your approval of their thoughts and experiences . That’s how free will works.
I’m not granting or denying approval to anyone… I simply wonder why people do certain stuff
Go back to reddit to pick fights with strangers there!
You gave way too hard of an opinion to call that leading question ‘curiosity’.
Go back to truth social where you can live in your little echo chamber and maybe stop baiting. You’re too fragile to be playing that game.
LOL sorry for not having an opinion that agrees with your world view?
You don’t need to seek approval and apologize for having free will. Nor does anyone owe you an apology for their own. And they don’t owe you an explanation for having it.
Lesson 1, little grasshopper.
It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).
For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I’ll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking “wow, really, Trump… that’s your guy?”). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it’s his right to be an idiot.
In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic’. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn’t worth giving him the time of day – we’ll outside of this example.
I can’t totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn’t too repulsive.
seinfeld is like rob,“why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke” no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.
After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can’t like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It’s like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)
he was never that good in the movies without his co-stars.
musk
There was a time when SpaceX and Tesla seemed like they were gonna change the world for the better, less co2, going to Mars and he even gave a few talks at astronomy events where he spoke about how carbon capture on Mars could be used to make rocket fuel (which is real and has been done btw) and bring starship rockets back, and how that same tech could be used on earth to help fight global warming. The future was gonna be amazing and I honestly believed he was gonna help make it happen
there’s a real reason marvel had him in iron man 2
Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one about people saying how Elon never invented anything or founded anything and it was all a persona. I believed it though and all that climate change stuff I thought was genuine.
Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one
same but I still wanted to say it. ngl I kinda believe a lot of people base their opinion of what someone is saying just off the upvote/downvotes ratio without thinking about it as much as they could, so the upvotes on this one may have been caused by the first few people seeing it agreeing with it
It’s not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references
Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B’Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).
All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with “both sides” arguments.
It’s sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.
Well, I always kind of hated Beltran as an actor. Really disappointed about the other 2 though, I had no idea.
Edit: I’m not seeing anything whatsoever on Google about Dawson related to Trump or even the Republicans, aside from one single Reddit post with a similar comment.
Weird. There used to be screen shot receipts I saw years ago.
Maybe she scrubbed it and turned a leaf? I hope so at least because B’Elanna was my favorite character.
JK Rowling. Why can’t she just shut up and write kids books?
In that regard I have to praise Stephanie Meyer: she made her money and then fucked off, never to be heard from again.
I have to praise Stephanie Meyer
Except the Twilight series glorified toxic relationships, normalized abuse and underage grooming, and hit an uncomfortable number of red flags in DSM-5.
mormon propaganda
Will Smith because of what he did to Chris Rock. Guy isn’t a genuine role model anymore.
I used to like Katy Perry’s music in high-school. Now shes super cringe hanging out with basically our version of Lex Luthor so I dont listen to her music anymore.
I’m out of the loop; who’s she been hanging out with?
Went to space with Jeff Bezos. It was a tone deaf “omg were women going into space” when everyone cringed and saw it as “look what I can do when I befriend a billionaire”.
Kevin Spacey. Bill Cosby. Danny Masterson. Steven Tyler. Anthony Kedis.
They are all gross now that I know more about them; some moreso than others.
cringey how miley kunis and asthon kutcher were shilling for him, and then fleeing to the europe, because they are facing criticism or connection to him/ SA. Ellen did the same thing with diddy.
I kind of feel for people who were close with people who were outed as sex offenders, because they didnt come in on monday “Hey, Danny! How was your weekend?” “Bro I spiked a girls drink and raped her in my car, it was awesome.” I worked with a guy for years, his daughter had “issues” and then one day it came out that he was a sexual abuser of his own daughter. Which explained her mental health issues. In that case he quit his job, got his affairs in order and pled guilty. But I still remember thinking he was a great guy, until he wasnt… now I’m going to find it really hard to not pop his nose out the back of his fucking head if I ever run into him again.
Now throw in the potential “attention seeking” behaviors that could happen with famous people, people hoping for a payout, jilted exes and someone you have known for years swearing up and down they didnt do it… Id want to support my friend too.
manipulators can be either party though. You have the manipulators swearing they didnt do it and you have the manipulators trying to extort.
You also have people who don’t understand what they did was rape and while they claim they didnt rape: the details are exactly that.
And often rapists are more believed over a rape victim.
Hence why it often takes multiple victims for a rape charge.
Also false accusation is not the same as inconclusive.
Lots of nuance.
Yeah, its rare that its definitively proven either way. I’m saying that I dont blame people for wanting to believe their friends and family are innocent when accused of rape famous or not.
Joe Rogan!
Yeah early podcasts of hearing a dude talk about scouring the jungle so he can lick a frog for DMT was awesome.
his early podcast with kevin smith was hilarious because at one point kevin smith stands up to stretch his legs and he was so high he forgot to sit back down
Dave Chappelle and Dwayne Johnson.
Why the rock?
Jack Black.
Came here to say that.
why he isn’t liked anymore?
His Tenacious D bandmate, Kyle Gass, made a joke about assassinating Donald Trump. Black put out a statement criticizing and distancing himself from Gass while also placing the band on hiatus, cancelling a then-ongoing world tour. People feel he threw a longtime friend under the bus in order to protect his public image.
I get why someone would lose respect for him over that, but he’s a celeb who’s cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image of inclusivity rather than culture warrior. He’s in the “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar” camp which is probably where folks like Fred Roger’s would be were he here today.
So I guess I didn’t expect much more from him, but I’m also not a huge fan or anything, just enjoy his work, so I’m not in a position to really be disappointed in him.
he’s a celeb who’s cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image
Damn dude just say you don’t know anything about Tenacious D. Lol.
Gotta protect those Video Game movie deals.
Don’t wanna risk that Ganon cast in the Zelda Movie
