• lmuel@sopuli.xyz
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    9 days ago

    If we were blind on the politics / moral eye we’d be on reddit I reckon

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    10 days ago

    I don’t want to care about politics, but politics keep trying to bust in my door and want to shove itself down my throat like a possessed dildo, so I only be political as self defence.

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    11 days ago

    “Can we stop talking about politics for a moment?”

    “So, uh, does anyone like Furina from Genshin Impact?”

    “HOLY SHIT, okay fine, let’s talk politics.”

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      10 days ago

      I dunno. I kinda wanna talk about how fucking good the new dark tranquility album is. But i doubt the people on Lemmy have heard anything related to its namesake Lemmy kilmister

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    10 days ago

    Because the sole nature of Lemmy is political. The whole reason it exists is political. People want to move away from tech oligarchs and take control of their own spaces, of their data. Rotting on Reddit while all your data is being harvested and your interactions get turned into shareholder value is very convenient. Being on Lemmy is inconvenient (although it has become less so over the last year). So if you’re willing to ditch a very convenient platform because of your beliefs, and move to a platform that aligns more closely with said beliefs, then it’s fairly obvious why said platform is so political in nature.

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      10 days ago

      This.

      Just from the features and the convenience, Reddit is better. It’s bigger, it’s got more content, it’s easier, it’s more stable (or at least used to be). You don’t have to worry about your instance going under or anything like that.

      The reason for the devs to invest their time to make lemmy and the apps and for admins to invest money and time into hosting and running the instances and for users to use this instead of Reddit is mainly the politics of wanting to have your own space with your own data.

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        10 days ago

        There’s something comical about your discussion around leaving reddit and yet your comment starts like so much reddit trash.

        This.

        This.

        This.

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          10 days ago

          I’m tired of Lemmy users acting like they, on average, aren’t the people that people make fun of when they make fun of Redditors.

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    11 days ago

    Beans are political if you look at it hard enough.

    Also if you look at politics even more it also becomes beans.

    Either embrace the absurdity or fight for the right to grow beans on your friend’s lakehouse farm while taking your clothes to your mom’s house so she can wash them for you.

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    10 days ago

    Lemmy has always been this way AFAIK, but let’s be honest if there was ever a time that people need to be be aware of politics it’s now.

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      10 days ago

      Lemmy is political because you may be into Star trek, you may use Linux, but we are all beholden to corrupt, capitalist oligarchs and billionaires. It’s the one true shared interest of everyone here.

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    10 days ago

    Being against genocide isn’t a “political position.” It’s called “being a decent human being” and you should be against it, no matter who is doing it to who.

    Pointing out that Trump is the dumbest, cruelest president that has ever lived isn’t a "political position. " It’s called “using your fucking eyes and paying attention to what he’s doing.”

    I could go on and on about “things that are more obvious than a sunrise being labeled ‘political positions’” but those 2 things could keep us busy for years.

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      10 days ago

      Didn’t realize this was strictly about the US. Also left and right are relative directions. Something being left of something else. You can endlessly compare apples and oranges if you want, but I don’t see the point.

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    10 days ago

    I mean, politics encompass everything. There is no escape, simply a tolerance for one flavor of politics over another. You may be in a position that views news and opinions as an annoyance, but I’m not free to forget what’s at stake.

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      10 days ago

      Only zealots think like this. Politics is not everything, it is a topic like any other. If you can’t have a conversation with another person or enjoy an activity without thinking about politics, then you’re spending too much time online.

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        10 days ago

        Only zealots think like this.

        This is the privileged take. So many people don’t have the luxury of not paying attention to politics because their very identity and public existence is being outlawed.

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          I literally lived in Iraq and Syria for a big portion of my life, and I spent even more time living in the inner cities of the US. Some braindead Lemmy user trying to accuse me of being privileged from their mother’s basement is exactly the type of ignorance that I expect from users on this site.

          If people in literal warzones and in poverty can distinguish politics from everything else, then so can everybody else. This idea that people in bad circumstances think about politics 23/7 is not reality. This is an ignorant idea made by ideologues for ideologues. Even during the war in Iraq, people had weddings, they went to visit each other’s houses, they celebrated holidays, they talk about trivial things, and so on. Do you know why that’s the case? It’s because they’re people. You clearly don’t view them as such, hence you hold on to such an out of touch belief.

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            Hey there, I too lived in one of the poorest and most densely populated regions in the world for half of my life.

            Politics is unfortunately not a topic like any other. Unlike other subjects, this one materially affects all people in the relevant country, and often other countries too.

            Governments work all the time to keep systems running, whether people think about them or not. But it is only by being aware of what is going on that people can make better choices when the time comes to choose new leaders.

            Without political awareness, a person gives up their right to a say in how their country should be.

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              But you’re conflating two different things. Someone who doesn’t think about politics 24/7 isn’t necessarily politically unaware or politically inactive. It just means that they understand there’s more to life than politics. You can recognize that politics has more influence on your life than other things, but it’s not the only influence on your life nor is it everything in life. I mean you lived through it, you should know as well as I do that even during blackouts and war, people still find ways to do things life that isn’t politics.

              Something this basic seems to be beyond comprehension for Lemmy users for some reason.

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                Agreed! There is more to a good life than politics.

                Keeping an ear out, talking to people when relevant, and remembering it when it comes time to vote is enough.

                I suppose the USA is having a particularly rough time of it lately, it’s understandable that many American users might have their situation front of mind.

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        to counter, if you don’t think about / or want to think about politics at all, you’re probably a willfully ignorant, selfish, asshole.

        politics may not be everything, but everyone is affected by them, whether or not you like it or acknowledge it. If you are socially responsible, you do the bare minimum of acknowledging politics and at least staying somewhat up to date rather than shunning it entirely.

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          That’s a wild assumption to have based on nothing. The reasons why someone spends so much time or very little time thinking about politics could be radically different. There are a lot of people who make politics their lives but are willfully ignorant, selfish assholes. This site is a prime example of that. At the same time there are very kind, well meaning people who don’t think about politics. This isn’t something that’s black and white.

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            Those very kind / well meaning people would take more of an interest in their civic duties if they were truly well meaning.

            To me, the people you describe still sound like assholes. Lazy assholes.

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              The issue with this take is that you assume that there is a direct correlation between kindness and civic engagement, which is not true. Someone can be genuinely kind but disengaged from civic duties due to a bunch of reasons ranging from personal to societal. Your take also equates passivity with malice, suggesting that if someone isn’t politically active, they’re morally flawed, which again isn’t true. The people who are the most politically obsessive, engaged, and vocal in the country are MAGA Republicans, and they are clearly not people who are kind… especially when you compare them to someone who’s apolitical but spends a lot of their time volunteering in their community.

              But that’s the issue, your take is inherently flawed because you draw your moral superiority from two assumption. The first is that you assume that your views are objectively correct and are superior to others, and the second is that you assume people who are politically zealous or choose to be as such will end up having your views… Both of which are absurdly arrogant assumptions to have. Your views are neither objectively moral or superior, nor do politically active people share your views. In fact the vast, vast majority of people do not see things the way that you do.

              There’s really no way you can justify your take because your digesting the world in absolutist terms. To you people are either politically active and share your views, thus are morally correct, or they’re inactive and are intentionally because evil or hostile. It’s such a polarizing and out of touch way to look at people and the world. If you are an example of the chronically online person who obsesses about politics 24/7, fine, but you have to acknowledge that the vast, vast majority of people do not think about politics 24/7, and that’s perfectly okay. Not only that, but just because most people aren’t zealots that does not mean they’re morally flawed or inferior. This holier than thou attitude is shows that your worldview is quite myopic.

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          Calling people an ignorant, selfish asshole is really going to help see the light and day of why politics are important and/or make them see why your opinions are good.

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            10 days ago

            If they’re too stupid to see it already then they can die with the rest of the idiots, we don’t care about convincing them anymore

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      I hate to be that guy, but that is the NCC-1701 Refit, or the NCC-1701 A , not the NCC-1701, and I demand the meme be fixed, preferably by putting the old school enterprise in it.

      Edit, this is the refit,

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        Im gonna that guy your that guy. If this is the refit it’s still the original enterprise. It’s no different to the ship of Theseus question, if anything it’s simpler than that old canard, so I’d say it’s still the same ship just upgraded.

        The equivalent would be to require all pictures of some actor only be when they were young. I challenge your premise at the axiom here as it’s the same ship just upgraded at a point in time.

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          Gloves come off I understand you point, however the refit replaced a large section of the engineering hull, the nacells, that the only part I would call “origional” is maybe the primary saucer section hull, and the bulkheads, I would disagree that it was just upgraded, and upgrade would be from the pilot to the main series where the collectors had an upgrade. this feels much more like a new ship with extra steps.

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            Heh, well even by that definition I’d still say it’s the og enterprise. If we’re taking the nautical pov on things like a wooden sailing ship, they often had similar refit type work and were always the same “ship”. Example, Tally Ho rebuild on YouTube, you can argue all you want that there is barely any of the 1910 ship left, but no mariner would argue as such. The idea and spirit of the Tally Ho is alive in the rebuilt ship. She is as much the original as she is now or will be in the future.

            Really it’s just a question of lineage or even idea. Much like a human with say cosmetic surgery to look like Barbie or Ken, the person is the same the bones are still there as it were. The name remains, the ship will change, or if you will the 4d path in time describes the ship through history.

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              Fair enough, I do think I was probably overly hastu with my um actually correction, especially given this looks like it is re refit, you have out that guyed me