I had a coworker who told us every winter that “There always used to be winters with little to no snow, the alarmists just make that into a big deal.” and every summer that “There always have been hot summers.” When pointing out that he is saying that every year and when did he have 3-4 hot summers in a row in his childhood, he’d just say “oh it’s just 3 summers. Shit happens. It’s no big deal and doesn’t mean anything.” (And the year after that it was just 4 summers and the year after that he denied it was even that hot 5 years ago.)
Doesn’t matter about climate changes
surely there are other planets we can live on… oh.
When I see things like this, the following quote comes to my mind:
Rationality is not a character trait, it’s a process. If you fool yourself into believing that you’re rational by default, you open yourself up to the most irrational thinking. [1]
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Its not like the weather isn’t recorded everyday for the past while now, right?
You’ve seen how much evidence there is that the earth is spherical and that germs are real right? Just because information is recorded doesn’t mean it will be trusted. Anything they like is true, anything they dislike is “fake news”
Hello yes police? This guy over here is talking about record keeping. What’s that, you need to shoot me too? Anything for my country^^tm
I mean. If you struggle to find this info, something has gone catastrophically wrong, a lot of information has been lost and now the request is valid
Mmmh @grok is this true?
Yeh
Does Lemmy have a version of the remindme bot?
There’s one on mastodon that works on lemmy too! (Yay Fediverse) check out this post for details: https://threadiverse.link/lemmy.ca/post/1143350
The reddit people that are more and more coming here
Isn’t this a non-corpo alternative to reddit? Or am I missing the point completely?
It’s as non-corpo until the big bucks start swinging here. Enjoy it while it lasts, or until all freedom of speech is gone
I’ll get them started attacking people for having free speech.
Dumpy has a tiny pee pee!
It is. Doesnt stop people from reddit to come here. And among these there are also the problem people
why is asking for a remindme bot so problematic for you?
Because it’s a redditism and people are pissy about reddit.
This should be really obvious… Feels like you gotta be out of touch to have to ask that.
:/
Complaining about “redditism” on a website that is built to look and feel like old reddit is a bit weird. Oh no, someone made a post and another person commented. That’s just like reddit.
How about we don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater and if something from reddit was helpful we have our own version of it.
Come back in 2134 when the gulf stream has collapsed.
With some luck, nuclear winter will already make it snow much earlier.
I read its about to collaps between 2050-2070
That’s when I’ll retire…
This is internet arguments now
SOURCE?
Up your butt
Sure but when hasn’t it been?
There always was at least a small contingent of people with this kind of discourse, but as a creeky old timer, i started seeing the change around 2014-2015, when everything seemed to scale up.
I feel a lot of it came from consolidation. In the before times, forums were small, topic-focused, usually separate websites, and the mods either owned the site, or could directly speak to the owner.(its own separate drama, but you could always hop onto another site.
You always had poop throwers and trolls, but each of the poop throwers usually had a specific type or trigger that would set off. The trolls were usually of the kenM variety, where they stirred poop and it was contained to a degree.
I think most importantly, because people were going to a place for a specific topic, it kept people somewhat civil. People with different tastes and opinions came together under a shared interest, and it helped with dialogue.
There were a LOT of downsides. One which doesn’t get addressed enough was that people weren’t as accepting of others being publicly identifiable as LGBTQ+, disabilities or being on the spectrum (those forum sections was often soft- coded as “anime”). And those biases were often baked into these groups. But honestly, today, it seems like the internet is even more segregated than before. While now, everyone is more or less forced onto one of the big socials, they no longer go to “the car forum” or “the tabletop forum”, its the “car forum of a rigid narrow band of political partisan and identity that you have to prove allegiance to or you cannot talk about sparkplugs”.
While I’m happy a lot of folks with differing paths in life can find community online, I wish there were more spaces for cross pollination of those beliefs. And because all these differing threads are under the control of sterile, monoculture corporations with little connection to these forums, admin policy reflects a detached, nuanced free reality where all furrys are porn, POC content is regulated into POC only threads, and grandma’s automatically get shoved in with the alt-right. (I’m in no way calling grannies alt-right, but a LOT of recommendation sites will try to channel them into innocuous looking alt treads, so please protect and inform your grannies)
For now, I’m enjoying Lemmy, but it feels like a distillation of all the issues mentioned. Not only is everything hyper granular , but you can essentially filter everything you don’t like off the island. While that may give a sort of peace of mind, it doesn’t address the issue that theres a bunch of jerks here, or expose those jerks to anti-jerk ways, so lemmy is becoming an even more amplified echo chamber than reddit, but now a user doesn’t even have to know that there’s a mirror-verse of the same threads saying the same things, only filtered through ingroup opinions.
As late as the 2000s. The internet didn’t always have the content it does now. News agencies took a long time to adopt it. Publications scientific or otherwise weren’t all published online. Content aggregators hadn’t scraped and indexed it all. Random pseuds hadn’t social media profiles to digest and spit out their takes on it. None of that existed which has led us to this point where internet arguments are two doofuses frantically dumping the results of that on each other.
Believe or not. Once upon a time not long ago people on the internet didn’t know everything. And generally they didn’t pretend to. Much less get into the modern day logical fallacy warfare while firing volleys of “sources” at each other.
I dunno the 80s?
As a user of the internet and telnet in the 80s, this was also the case back then. But also, sharing the entire sources and sharing knowledge was the primary use.
It’s just two AI chatbots posting to a dead internet, on a dead planet, hours before the last bit of electricity is consumed by their mainframes and a rack mining crypto.
There’s a ray Bradbury story that’s kind of similar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Will_Come_Soft_Rains_(short_story)
I actually have read that one before. Definitely the inspiration 😆
Probably inspired that ST:TNG episode with the Douwd as well.
Mmmh @grok is this true?
What’s winter ?
The time when stuff is really dry because nestle cloud seeds over their collectors, but it’s not all hot enough to reach its flash point. Until the big fire (that’s usually ‘spring’). So its the ~month where you can sometimes see the sky.
It used to snow as late as April in southern Kanto (Tokyo metro area) back in the early 2010s, sometimes leaving several cm on the ground for days.
I spent last winter in northern Kanto and it only flurried a couple of times.
When I lived in the NE US in the ‘00s it would snow so much the airports would shut down for a day. Piles of snow would last well into spring. Last time I was there it snowed maybe a total of a foot for the entire winter for a couple years running. All those winter scenes in film, or even Currier and Ives prints from the turn of the last century are the only context that it used to actually snow and stay covered for months at a time.
I live in the arctic, we had 3 weeks over 30c this summer.
The first two weeks of September were all over 20c. Normal high for these two weeks is 8.8c.
Snow would usually sit around until late April/ early May. The last 4-5 years it’s been gone early April at the latest.
Same deal with Lake Placid, NY and Hakuba, Nagano, you ask anyone who’s been in a snow area since the 70s about how impassible people’s yards became from the snow when they were in their 20s. At least Sapporo got snow this year.
I grew up in NE Ohio in the 1970s. Generally the first snowfall was in early October and by November the ground was entirely covered in snow. You didn’t see even hints of green grass until the end of April and the snow wasn’t entirely gone until some time in May (and the giant mounds of snow thrown up by the snow plows would often still be there into June, after school had let out). That is literally half the year in snow cover. Granted, being right next to Lake Erie makes the snow situation about as bad as possible, but it’s nothing like this today.
That shit made me move to the South as soon as possible, but it took me a couple of decades to realize that institutionalized racism is worse than trudging through snow once in a while.
institutionalized racism is worse than trudging through snow once in a while
How many black kids went to your highschool? There’s still institutionalized racism in Ohio, it just takes slightly different forms.
Western Europe. Places stopped having any freezing in winter. It just turned into one long autumn.
Do you remember the seasons, Mr. Frodo? It’ll be winter soon. […] and eating the first of the snow with the yellow colour. Do you remember the taste of yellow snow?
