We’re literally in decade four of people underestimating James Cameron
At a certain point, his success and money is just self-sustaining. He could release a video of him shitting and it would make half a billion domestic. Like, there are at least 3 more Avatar movies coming. Terminator was an actual cultural phenomenon that people can remember the names of all of the characters and the plot, and yet it only did a fraction of the numbers Avatar does. Explain that.
Pros: As an effect of him writing the script in the 90s, the movie feels like a 90s movie with modern fx.
Cons: As an effect of him writing the script in the 90s, the movie feels like a 90s movie, with ancient overdone tropes, including the racist ones.
Made three out of the top four grossing movies of all time.
I don’t really like any of them, but you can’t argue with the results. The man knows how to put bums on cinema seats.
My wife and I started watching the second avatar and we turned it off about 90 minutes in, just couldn’t be bothered to care or watch it any more. And we never finished it. What a piece of crap
Watched it in IMAX 3d with my kid. It ruled, so much fun to watch. Will never watch it again though, and certainly never at home. That defeats the entire purpose.
We even went to a new “4D” room where the seats moved, you got wind and mist etc. It’s like a thrill ride at that point almost.
Doesn’t it strike you as odd, that unless you pay $30 to see a 3 hour movie in IMAX 3D, the movie isn’t good?
I mean, it’s not that much about the movie but about the experience. It’s just an FX festival. Of course that’s only going to work with the appropriate equipment.
That is a very strange conclusion. Plenty of movies are good without an immersive 3d experience. Most are, actually. Avatar just isn’t one of them.
But it was, none the less, an extremely fun experience. Things can be good for different reasons.
It’s kinda like watching a video of an amusement park ride and being like, “don’t you think it’s weird to have to drive to the park and get on the ride for it to be good.”
Made it 80 minutes further than we did. Even the intro was snooze fest.
Not lasting 10 minutes into a movie doesn’t really say much about the movie
I don’t know a single person who’s ever seen it
I don’t know how it made so much money. I guess people are seeing it and not talking about it?
I saw it. Enjoyed it. It was fun to watch. Not sure what else you really need in a movie tbh
Memorable plot, characters, themes.
This is precisely it. Avatar had originally the exact same problem that the Way of the Water has now. They’re tech demos. Interesting, pretty, they move people to see what’s what on the theater. But, offer close to nothing emotionally or culturally resonant. It’s like a generic roller-coaster, you show up, enjoy the ride, then go get some fries having nothing deeper to say about the experience because the experience doesn’t offer anything deep. It doesn’t mean the movies are bad or that they weren’t enjoyable, that’s why they made so much money. But there’s no conversation to have around them except to remark on how much they cost to make, or how did the CGI looked like or whether other studios will use the tech invented for this movie on other movies. Plot, characters and symbolism are shallow pools. Specially to an audience that is sick and tired of mega blockbuster sequels.
Chinese distribution. China made the Warcraft movie profitable because audiences hated it in North America.
Hi, nice to meet you. You missed nothing.
It was such a bad movie too. Dude was really just like “let’s remake the first movie, but wetter”
Wait for the next sequel, “let’s remake both movies, but hotter”
And then, “Let’s remake them all, but earthier”
The studio execs are reading along and thinking, “at 2 billion each, you bet I will!”
And no character arcs for anyone. Well except for Quarich, he was literally the only reason to see the movie and even his character was boring as shit.
13 years!!?? Fuuuuck.
He can’t keep getting away with it!
I feel like there was a good movie in Avatar 2 but a lot of the scenes looked like they didn’t render them fully. The FPS changes felt random. If they’d done ALL action in 48 and ALL dialogue in 24 it wouldn’t have been as bad.
The scenes of the kids rescuing the parents were so gorgeous. Stunning. But compare that to the scene of the boat jumping and crashing? Insane how shitty it looked.
Adaptive framerate
It really did feel like a laggy videogame the way the frame rate and graphics would change so randomly.
Considering the movie is 98% CGI, that feels like a fuck up.
I’ve always called bullshit on the second movie making that much damn money. There’s no way. Not nearly that many people cared about it at all, I seriously think somebody faked that attendance.
The franchise is huge in China. Just because your group didn’t like it doesn’t mean they are faking anything
Take your meds.
I smoked cannabis prior to watching the second movie and was still unimpressed.
Should have done acid
That probably would have made it worse though
Agh does the world need yet another religion?
All jokes aside, I think there was a mini religion for a while after the first movie came out.
Definitely I remember it. Also remember thinking you could just watch professional women’s volleyball instead. Bunch of skinny attractive people jumping around and not one of them are blue.
Im apparently the only person on the face of mother earth who genuinely liked the first movie… I did, no really. But the second one literally had nothing of interest in it. It looked the same, sounded the same, had the same characters and all that, but the movie when nowhere for 3 hours. I dont think I can ever sit through it again.
That isnt true. My six year old liked the first movie.
His name is James, James Cameron. The bravest pioneer.
Bravely bold James Cameron
Rode forth from Hollywood.
He was not afraid to fail,
Oh brave James Cameron.
He was not at all afraid
To flop in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave James Cameron.
whenever I feel stupid I remember that it took Cameron 13 years to think “but what if water instead of trees”
The reason why these trashy movies keep breaking records is the fact that studios primarily focus on Chinese distribution.
Also: deep sea explorer done right and not implode himself by sparing expense.
For some reason I thought it was the third one but people told me I was wrong and there are only 2
Don’t listen to them, they’re lying. The 4th one is coming out now
forgettable MC
Jakesully…
*sooly
