• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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    Many rich Indians in the west still treat people of lower castes like this. Even the “liberal” ones. Like in Silicon Valley there are Indians from higher castes who try to uphold the caste system and they look down on their Indian colleagues who were born in a lower caste. Even when the person of lower caste has a higher position in the company.

    And Switzerland can you also go after the rich Arabs who have Filipino slaves in their mansions in Europe.

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      almost like the caste system was an artificial social construct invented by the elites to ensure they stay on top

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      They will try to behave like that with others too, can’t let shit like that slide. Got to educate them ;)

    • can you also go after the rich Arabs who have Filipino slaves in their mansions in Europe

      maybe. If the Filipinos are in Switzerland. If there is a assumption of breach of basic human rights we can also go after them if the Filipinos are not in switzerland.

      But we would first need proof or at least reasonable suspicion that something is happening so we can start a investigation and get a search warrant.

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        Okay, but could maybe you just go after the rich? For boo other reason than being rich? Because, in my experience , rich people tend to suck and that seems reason enough to investigate. Please?

        Pls Switzerland?

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      It seems a little reductive/whataboutist to bring that up in the conversation about rich british assholes, though?

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    I’m shocked, but happy, that they actually got jail time.

    4.5 years for the parents and 4 years for the son and his wife respectively. I think jail time for people like this is the only way we can make sure they don’t do it again, a fine is no use when you’re richer than god.

    • you really shouldn’t be shocked. We are one of the few countries that actually doesn’t fuck around.

      Idk if it’s because our neutrality makes us feel morally superior, because our Neutrality makes us feel invincible, because we are so rich we can afford to be moral or just because, and that’s my favourite theory, the germanic honor-culture has survived here and we value doing the right/honorable thing more than anything else.

      Either way: If you wanna commit crimes, please don’t commit them here. Prison Accommodations are expensive and paid by our taxes.

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        Thanks for sharing.

        Although, I abhor your countries neutrality. Take WWII for instance, being neutral kind of says yeah we are cool with both sides.

        Also, your banking laws are a cancer on the rest of the world, but I shouldn’t throw stones from my glass house in the UK since we are also very good at offshoring money for deplorable people.

        I will say I am fond of your progressive policies on terms of drug use and help for those that want it.

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          Take WWII for instance, being neutral kind of says yeah we are cool with both sides.

          Being literally surrounded by the Third Reich meant their choices were neutrality or actually joining up with Hitler, so they really can’t be criticized for choosing neutrality. They can be criticized for their actions during and after the war in helping the Nazi leaders squirrel away the wealth they stole from the Jews, something that was not necessary for a neutral nation to do.

          I’d rather rip on Sweden which at least had some possibility of joining the Allies but instead supplied Germany with the high-quality iron ore they absolutely needed to keep their war machine running - the exact same thing they did in WWI. They also supplied Germany with much-needed ball bearings, but at least they sold them to the Allies as well.

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              Nothing drives me as crazy as my phone constantly putting in “thus” instead of “this”. Nobody fucking ever uses the word “thus” in a text message.

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        the germanic honor-culture has survived here and we value doing the right/honorable thing more than anything else

        Hahaha

        [Except ](http://www.the.com/ germanic honor-culture has survived here and we value doing the right/honorable thing more than anything else) for when they didn’t

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        It’s my impression that at least in the German-speaking cantoons the Swiss are the most “rules are rules are rules” of the German-speaking people.

        Had this happened in Britain, it would’ve been swept under the rug since over there de facto and probably since forever, the rules apply very differently depending on the “importance” of people. (In fact I wouldn’t at all be surprised if this was also happening in Britain and in there it was simply swept under the rug).

        I don’t think “rules are rules are rules” is a generic “honor” thing, rather it’s the more specific norms of “social responsibility” (i.e. responsibility towards others).

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      Will they serve it though? They weren’t even present at the sentencing due to “poor health”.

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        Will they serve it though?

        There is a thing called “international arrest warrant”. Of course they are rich enough to hide somewhere where the Swiss have no contract with, but I don’t think they would enjoy that…

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    While them getting a jail sentence is good, the term is a joke, especially since they’re not likely to actually serve it all or even any of it (house arrest, time served, “good behaviour”, bribes, they aren’t short of ways nor money to get around it), and are probably the most likely to re-offend out of anyone who has ever stepped foot in a jail…

    I would be much more excited if they were made to pay their earnings for the duration that they kept slaves, to the people they enslaved (never mind all the other people they have and continue to exploit to get to be the richest people), and were then kept under constant supervision to make sure they don’t start doing it again as soon as they possibly can. (I am well aware this will unfortunately never happen)

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    You remember when a international crisis happened after the Swiss police apprehended Gaddafi’s son when he beat hotel staff?

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      Gaddafi called for Switzerland to be split between its neighbors.

      Who has the last laugh now? Don’t need with the Swiss and their dark, devious ways

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    Saw reddit thread about this. Apparently the jail sentence is all but symbolic, since the defendants are currently outside Switzerland. As long as they don’t go back, they will never see the inside of a jail.

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        “Briton” is generally used as the noun form of “British”, so when “Brit” is used as a noun - which is most of the time - it’s abbreviating “Briton”.

        As for who gets to be called “Briton”: In the loosest sense, anyone with residence in Britain can be counted as British when they’re here, whether or not they’re considered ethnically British (by themselves or others).

        Bear in mind that “Briton” originally mean “an inhabitant of the British Isles before any of the Romans, or various flavours of Germanics turned up”. There’s been quite a bit of admixture since then. It makes sense - to the chagrin of the Welsh, no doubt - that the term has mutated a bit over the centuries.

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          Residence does not suffice: you’re a Briton if you have British nationality (no matter of which of the 4 nations) so people have to apply for British nationality after at least a certain time as resident (5 years for Indians and a few other nationals, 10 for most foreigners) plus there are other mechanisms to get British nationality (for example, for descendants - resident or otherwise - of people born in Northern Ireland).

          I lived for over a decade in Britain as an EU citizen but I’m not and never was a Briton since I never applied for British nationality.

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            Maybe not in any legal sense, no. How people and even news media use it, there’s plenty of wiggle room.

            e.g. allowing the ambiguity of “British home owner” to go unclarified, that is as “home owner who is British” as opposed to “owner of a home in Britain”, and any similarly loose interpretations that go along with or derive from that.

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              I don’t remember ever hearing “Brit” or “Brits” being used for immigrants in Britain and definitelly heard it used for when Britons are living abroad as immigrants (in fact when living in The Netherlands I had some colleagues who were in their own words “Brits”)…

              Always thought it was just another way of saying British and not going into the specifics of which nation in Britain did people come from (the whole “nations” thing for people abroad is generally irrelevant or even misunderstood).

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          I always thought of “Briton” in that last sense, while “Brit” has the meaning of anyone living in the UK (almost). But that’s from an outsider’s perspective.

          As my English cousin corrected me, though, “I’m English, ‘British’ could be anything!”. She wasn’t, of course, talking about the difference between English and Welsh, or Scots.

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            Pity the person of Scottish (or Welsh) ancestry born in England who has to choose what they are on some forms, especially legal ones.

            But then, there are worse problems to have.

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      The “wealthy elite” in this case are Indian. Goes on to show that it’s not a matter of race/origin but of class, the sooner we collectively realize this the better off we’ll be.

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        It’s both. Trying to erase actual issues people care about (race / gender / culture / sexual orientation) doesn’t work. You can’t just say “don’t worry about it”. Not all struggle is class struggle. People actually care about their culture.

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          Not trying to erase anything, I just think it’s the main issue we’re facing right now, and that we’d be better off on many of these other issues if we did something about that one.

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            That’s what someone who doesn’t care about race, gender, etc. would say. You may not care because none of those affect you negatively.