• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    What? No it wouldn’t!

    I mean yes it would in application. But the human species has been invading and changing governments in other countries since the dawn of time.

    It’s possible. I assure you.

    And I also wouldn’t be upset if it happened. As an American.

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    Why are we talking about how difficult it would be? It’s not acceptable, we don’t want it, and we make the decisions about our nation.

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    would joining the two countries be better for everyone? in some ways, yes . in a lot of ways, no

    but no matter what way you spin it. it falls flat on its face after a bucket of cold realism is thrown over you.
    The reality is Canadians would lose their rights as citizens and would be at best, passengers living in poverty. and at worst, would be slaves

    hundreds of thousands would go into poverty, be imprisoned by the occupants for not following their rules, or just straight up be deported or murdered. and yes I said occupants, it would be a military occupation for generations before the occupants even thought the new territory was ready to have some new states carved out. Until then look no further than Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine, what goes on there? Natives are evicted and killed, Immigrants from the “core” are shipped in to take their homes, the news shows off some north korean style tranquil scenes of everything working out fine, and there’s small fake ballot stuffed elections to pretend all is well since the takeover.

    there are a select few things I’d be envious of being part of the US over. but the fact remains that im not a fucking idiot, and It would be a net negative for every single person in my country. I’m not going to play devils advocate for people who would be trying to kill us

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    i dunno about you but i’d love it if new england became a canadian province, can we just like literally do the exact opposite of what the mandarin chief wants and let canada absorb some of the US? please? Fucking PRETTY PLEASE???

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      😉 You folks have a funny accent, you should take New Scotland, New Brunswick, NFLD and Labrador because they talk funny too. (jkg of course)

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        i’m from western MA so they don’t have to worry about me talking about Pahkin da Cah at Hahvahd Yahd :p

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      8 hours ago

      I’m so sick of this bullshit. No. Stop talking about it.

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        American here, keep talking about it.

        The world would be a better place if American and Canada became one country.

        The only people who would lose out are Canadians, but everyone else would be better off for it.

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    Canadians don’t have an effective military.

    Are they suggesting they would resist the US by force? That’d be a bad idea, way worse than joining.

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      Nah. Fucking do it. Let’s start WWIII. At this point it would be USA against Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Panama, Greenland, Ukraine…

      Let’s get the entire world to gang up on America like we ganged up on Germany a few years ago

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    Why would anyone think twice about this ridiculous word fart from a demented rapist?

    Move on, nothing to see here.

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    A lot of these hypotheticals can be answered by “we’ll just slaughter anyone who makes a fuss” because that’s where our country’s moral framework will be if we ever march troops across the border. Like an ultra nationalist fascist state is going to concern itself with old treaties and popular sentiments.

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      From a Canadian prespective, we would commit all the war crimes we could against an invading force, especially one we could not fight a conventional war against and win.

      Im talking sending American GIs home in unrecognizable condition.

      I dont care what government is in power by then. Invade Canada and be prepared to die in horrible ways, mutilated, and sent back to your loved ones in chunks.

      This is the only way we could win a war against the US and we would not hesitate to do it.

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        I’ve noticed this bluster among Canadians.

        It’s just bluster. I think surrendering is in your blood thanks to the French.

      • 🅃🅾🅆🅴🄻🅸🄴@lemm.ee
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        Realistically, we are so fucked. One single bomb on a highway or railway can completely decimate any one of our province’s ability to move people or goods and perform services. Our border is too long and wild to be defendable. And they could probably take out our entire military logistics in a single night of bombings. All of this isn’t even to mention that if they wanted to go all out insane they could make nuclear threats if the Canadian government doesn’t capitulate. I’m not saying we couldn’t resist once occupied, it’s just fucking hideous to think about.

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            Yeah, no. There will be no “canadian resistance.”

            Lol. Anyone who tries to form some resistance will be charged with terrorism and made an example of.

            You’re all bark and no bite. Canadians would rather live as Americans than die as Canadians. It’s just a fact of life.

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        You shouldn’t hesitate. And some USians would like to join you in eradicating the fascists.

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        That would be stupid. When Italians were conscripted to fight against British soldiers in Africa, most of them didn’t even like Mussolini. So what did they do? The surrendered and sat the rest of the war out.

        That wouldn’t have happened if the allies had a policy of mutilating their prisoners.

        Fascism is a hate movement, and hatred is self-destructive. You can’t defeat an enemy with hatred you’ll only destroy yourself.

        Offer an out for those that want to sit it out. Those that won’t, are targets that need to be eliminated. Not a target of your fucked up torture fantasies.

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          To be clear, you think there would be an actual war with any safe space to store prisoners? The US would roll over Canada’s military in any open conflict, and crush any official bases. Any war would be entirely guerilla warfare, in which case taking prisoners is entirely unrealistic

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            Yep, occupied territory doesn’t have much opportunity for holding defectors, because it can be hard to prevent infiltration. Behind front lines is different though.

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    He never actually meant it. Why does nobody get it? It’s a distraction. Stop fuelling it. This headline is exactly what Trump wants.

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      Anchoring is legitimately a negotiation technique where you start with an absurd demand to set the framing of the haggling.

      Ie now the idea of expanded sea port security integration doesn’t seem like a crazy thing to exchange for elimination of tariffs.

      But guess what, expanded sea port security integration would drastically reduce our ability to economically pivot in the face of future tariff threats. Ie if expanded sea port security integration means the USA can prevent us from using our sea ports.

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      You don’t know that, and Project 2025 states that foreign affairs must be subject to national interests. The GOP is prioritizing access to strategic minerals as a long term goal. DT has stated the annex desire repeatedly and consistently.

      At the least, the economic assault is not a distraction, and it is obviously the initial stage in an escalation. People are already affected, and pissed.

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    What about going the other way, we take up the metric system and coins for our 1 and 2 dollars instead of paper bills?

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      Aviation has just got its dick stuck too hard in the imperial can. Having to teach material where g=32 makes me want to eat glass.

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      The U.S. already uses the metric system in strategic areas like the military, space exploration and scientific research.

      It would be quite cost prohibitive to replace all the road signs so we’re keeping the imperial system for day to day stuff.

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        It’s too bad they took away all the dual marked road signs when that dick Reagan killed the conversion to metric.

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            Yeah, no idea on the pros and cons of dollar coins, just that they’ll never take off while there are still bills circulating.

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              My guess would be a knee jerk response like the move away from incandescent bulbs.

              I barely even use cash at this point so I’m not sure what the actual implications would be.

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        Aren’t dollar coins used in the US? Because I’ve used them in dollarized economies (e.g. Ecuador) and I assumed they were fairly standard everywhere.

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      In terms of the metric system, just tell Americans that they’re still using the occupier’s system (British redcoats). 😉

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        Ugh, we’re not even. We’re using the US customary system, which uses the British words but aren’t the same values as British Imperial values. They’re actually pegged to the metric system, so if the definition of a kilometer changed, so would the definition of a mile.

        We’re using metric with extra steps. Not to mention certain products are already in metric, and everything else has the metric on it already.

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        It’s all about perspective…Live in Manitoba or Saskatchewan for awhile and virtually everywhere is warm to visit.

        (Ok maybe I’m still a little salty about the -40 temps and my pipes freezing three times this winter.)

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          Hey even us ‘soft’ Torontonians had windchill at that temp several times this season. And snow, helluva lot this year too, almost like Buffalo. 😂

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    The most disturbing part is that everyone is still discussing it.

    You give him power by taking his mouth diarrhea as something more than just that.

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      The cold, honest truth is that Trump needed a rival.

      He’s literally unrivaled because Bernie lost to hillary in the 2016 primary.

      I blame everyone who voted for her in the primary for why we now have 2 trump presidencies. They would rather have Trump than reduce the disparity in wealth.

      Greed won and entitlement won, again.

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      Enough of this. Nobody took him seriously in 2015 and we got what we got. You’re not going to head him off by talking or not talking about him.

      Trump does not have a sense of humor or a long-term tactical mindset. He speaks whatever is on his incomprehensibly selfish mind. When he says over and over and over again that he could run for a 3rd term, he means it. When he says over and over and over again that he thinks Canada should be annexed, he means it.

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        Thank you. It’s just so f’ing baffling how many people still think the right approach to Trump is to underestimate, ignore, or otherwise write him off. We know what happens when we do that. This lesson has been taught to us time and time again and it’s carried Trump to the White House twice.

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        This whole thing came out of accidentally calling Trudeau ‘govenor’. Trump made a simple mistake, but it’s the reaction he got that caused this to keep going. Trump is a bully and bullies thrive on getting reactions. It could have been stopped early if we ignored his dumb ass then, but now it is too late and we need to show strength to get him to back down.

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          No, it didn’t. This whole thing came out of Trump randomly deciding to punish Canada with huge tariffs for no apparent reason* and he made the insinuations against Canada’s sovereignty in furtherance of that.

          (* actually, to manufacture casus belli)

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            Well it’s hard to know for sure when trying to figure out the motivation of a crazy person, but it’s probably a combo of wanting to change things on maps, thinking tariffs are a good replacement for having any kind of taxes on the wealthy, wanting Canadian resources for free, not understanding what a trade deficit is, and of course being obsessed with money. Also he probably has a grudge against Canada because Trudeau made fun of him and he’s a small and petty man that’s been given power.

            There’s also wanting to emulate his buddies Putin and Xi.

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      My opinion is that Trump negotiates this way - Ask for something outlandish and breathe a sigh of relief when he settles for something less. Gets press — but you’re right about power. However the news being the way it is on a continuous cycle, content is needed. He understands that.