why are we still discussing it then?
that was clearly meant just to provoke.
You don’t start off a “this will never be acceptable” with a list of things that would need to be resolved; it just turns it into a negotiation.
Can Canada just annex NYS then? No need to merge them all together, just take my state for now, and see how it goes.
All right but you have to agree that Montreal make the better bagels.
Why are we talking about how difficult it would be? It’s not acceptable, we don’t want it, and we make the decisions about our nation.
we make the decisions about our nation.
of course you do
i dunno about you but i’d love it if new england became a canadian province, can we just like literally do the exact opposite of what the mandarin chief wants and let canada absorb some of the US? please? Fucking PRETTY PLEASE???
😉 You folks have a funny accent, you should take New Scotland, New Brunswick, NFLD and Labrador because they talk funny too. (jkg of course)
i’m from western MA so they don’t have to worry about me talking about Pahkin da Cah at Hahvahd Yahd :p
would joining the two countries be better for everyone? in some ways, yes . in a lot of ways, no
but no matter what way you spin it. it falls flat on its face after a bucket of cold realism is thrown over you.
The reality is Canadians would lose their rights as citizens and would be at best, passengers living in poverty. and at worst, would be slaveshundreds of thousands would go into poverty, be imprisoned by the occupants for not following their rules, or just straight up be deported or murdered. and yes I said occupants, it would be a military occupation for generations before the occupants even thought the new territory was ready to have some new states carved out. Until then look no further than Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine, what goes on there? Natives are evicted and killed, Immigrants from the “core” are shipped in to take their homes, the news shows off some north korean style tranquil scenes of everything working out fine, and there’s small fake ballot stuffed elections to pretend all is well since the takeover.
there are a select few things I’d be envious of being part of the US over. but the fact remains that im not a fucking idiot, and It would be a net negative for every single person in my country. I’m not going to play devils advocate for people who would be trying to kill us
There’s no discussion. Fuck off or declare war
What? No it wouldn’t!
I mean yes it would in application. But the human species has been invading and changing governments in other countries since the dawn of time.
It’s possible. I assure you.
And I also wouldn’t be upset if it happened. As an American.
You’re not welcome here.
This is a world news sub… Not a patriotic America is awesome sub.
You’re not welcome here.
Then why are you advocating for Canada to be merged into the US? Do you have it backwards?
As an American, I’d be upset if it happened. It’s bonkers to just be like, “oh other sovereign nation NBD you no longer exist,” absolute madness.
Besides we could just (re)negotiate the trade agreements we have in place which apparently are so bad. I wonder who did a bad job with them last time we changed the framework and name of NAFTA … Oh right the Trump admin.
There’s no good reason, in my point of view, we couldn’t have an equivalent to the EU for North and South America - freedom of movement, establishing standards, less friction when it comes to trade - but that would require some true visionaries with a lot of influence and power to work. I doubt it would come to be but I wouldn’t be upset if it happened.
Won’t someone please rid us of the meddling orange man and his sad lonely billionaire buddy.
So stop discussing it. Dumb mfers take the bait every time.
I’m so sick of this bullshit. No. Stop talking about it.
American here, keep talking about it.
The world would be a better place if American and Canada became one country.
The only people who would lose out are Canadians, but everyone else would be better off for it.
I’ll die for my land before I become a second class citizen to your empire, fascist
Sure bud.
fascist
Be careful. That word is starting to lose meaning.
It’s really not. You say fascist things, you get called a fascist
The only people saying it has lost meaning are, in fact, fascists who are butthurt they were called what they are.
And from your other posts on this subject you’re not just a fascist, but straight up a psycho who gets off on violence.
I hope you seek help.
🥱
You’re living in a fantasyland.
I hope you seek help.
Irony.
Ok, if that’s how you feel become a Canadian province then.
USA for 11th province, let’s go.
Are you a vet?
Sometimes the decision to block an account is just trivial.
A lot of these hypotheticals can be answered by “we’ll just slaughter anyone who makes a fuss” because that’s where our country’s moral framework will be if we ever march troops across the border. Like an ultra nationalist fascist state is going to concern itself with old treaties and popular sentiments.
From a Canadian prespective, we would commit all the war crimes we could against an invading force, especially one we could not fight a conventional war against and win.
Im talking sending American GIs home in unrecognizable condition.
I dont care what government is in power by then. Invade Canada and be prepared to die in horrible ways, mutilated, and sent back to your loved ones in chunks.
This is the only way we could win a war against the US and we would not hesitate to do it.
Realistically, we are so fucked. One single bomb on a highway or railway can completely decimate any one of our province’s ability to move people or goods and perform services. Our border is too long and wild to be defendable. And they could probably take out our entire military logistics in a single night of bombings. All of this isn’t even to mention that if they wanted to go all out insane they could make nuclear threats if the Canadian government doesn’t capitulate. I’m not saying we couldn’t resist once occupied, it’s just fucking hideous to think about.
Im referring to resistance. We dont stand a chance in a regular engagement.
Yeah, no. There will be no “canadian resistance.”
Lol. Anyone who tries to form some resistance will be charged with terrorism and made an example of.
You’re all bark and no bite. Canadians would rather live as Americans than die as Canadians. It’s just a fact of life.
I no longer live in a boarder state but if brown coats started marching north they would have to get there first.
I’m a dual citizen and I’d sooner burn my American passport. Americans who think like this can get fucked and suck Donnie’s tiny fingers.
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You shouldn’t hesitate. And some USians would like to join you in eradicating the fascists.
The Geneva checklist
I’ve noticed this bluster among Canadians.
It’s just bluster. I think surrendering is in your blood thanks to the French.
Winning wars and then losing the occupation is in your very recent history.
If by recent you mean at least a third of America’s history (longer if you count the complete lack of change in the south as a failed outcome), then yes. Recent.
That would be stupid. When Italians were conscripted to fight against British soldiers in Africa, most of them didn’t even like Mussolini. So what did they do? The surrendered and sat the rest of the war out.
That wouldn’t have happened if the allies had a policy of mutilating their prisoners.
Fascism is a hate movement, and hatred is self-destructive. You can’t defeat an enemy with hatred you’ll only destroy yourself.
Offer an out for those that want to sit it out. Those that won’t, are targets that need to be eliminated. Not a target of your fucked up torture fantasies.
To be clear, you think there would be an actual war with any safe space to store prisoners? The US would roll over Canada’s military in any open conflict, and crush any official bases. Any war would be entirely guerilla warfare, in which case taking prisoners is entirely unrealistic
Yep, occupied territory doesn’t have much opportunity for holding defectors, because it can be hard to prevent infiltration. Behind front lines is different though.
Nah. If Americans invade its open season. No mercy.
Why would anyone think twice about this ridiculous word fart from a demented rapist?
Move on, nothing to see here.
Canadians don’t have an effective military.
Are they suggesting they would resist the US by force? That’d be a bad idea, way worse than joining.
Yeah, start a war with a nation you share the longest unsecured boarder with, filled with people who look and sound like you, who also have a history of record geneva convention additions. That sounds like a great idea, what with the USs great track record at winning wars of insurgencies…
Nah. Fucking do it. Let’s start WWIII. At this point it would be USA against Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Panama, Greenland, Ukraine…
Let’s get the entire world to gang up on America like we ganged up on Germany a few years ago
Greenland brings in Denmark and Denmark all of Europe
NATO also doesn’t specify that the attacker is excluded if they were a NATO member. It just states if an attacker hits one of the members article 5 goes into effect. So an attack on Canada brings 31 countries against the U.S.
And Canada all of the Commonwealth
That’s not a war, dude.
World War 3 is a war.
What about going the other way, we take up the metric system and coins for our 1 and 2 dollars instead of paper bills?
Aviation has just got its dick stuck too hard in the imperial can. Having to teach material where g=32 makes me want to eat glass.
We’ve tried dollar coins a couple times.
But never with taking away the bills. Get rid if the bills and force the coins and voilà.
too many stripper injuries
That seems like a losing move for not a lot of benefit.
Yeah, no idea on the pros and cons of dollar coins, just that they’ll never take off while there are still bills circulating.
My guess would be a knee jerk response like the move away from incandescent bulbs.
I barely even use cash at this point so I’m not sure what the actual implications would be.
Aren’t dollar coins used in the US? Because I’ve used them in dollarized economies (e.g. Ecuador) and I assumed they were fairly standard everywhere.
They exist but are not circulated in nearly enough quantity so we basically collect them as oddities.
We have them but they’re somewhat uncommon. I needed three for a project recently and had to go well out of my way to find them
i only see them in Las Vegas, where theres millions of them.
The U.S. already uses the metric system in strategic areas like the military, space exploration and scientific research.
It would be quite cost prohibitive to replace all the road signs so we’re keeping the imperial system for day to day stuff.
It’s too bad they took away all the dual marked road signs when that dick Reagan killed the conversion to metric.
In terms of the metric system, just tell Americans that they’re still using the occupier’s system (British redcoats). 😉
Ugh, we’re not even. We’re using the US customary system, which uses the British words but aren’t the same values as British Imperial values. They’re actually pegged to the metric system, so if the definition of a kilometer changed, so would the definition of a mile.
We’re using metric with extra steps. Not to mention certain products are already in metric, and everything else has the metric on it already.
Oh, that’s interesting.
I vote for a trial where we test Canada taking the Western states.
…and the Northeast too, please.
That would be cool, especially California, then we’d have somewhere warm to visit. LOL
Um… you can’t take California without also taking us in Oregon and Washington with you!
Western Oregon and Washington? Give the rest to Idaho?
It’s all about perspective…Live in Manitoba or Saskatchewan for awhile and virtually everywhere is warm to visit.
(Ok maybe I’m still a little salty about the -40 temps and my pipes freezing three times this winter.)
Hey even us ‘soft’ Torontonians had windchill at that temp several times this season. And snow, helluva lot this year too, almost like Buffalo. 😂
The bonus is that kind of weather makes us appreciate the warmers days that much more.
It’s why we can walk around in shorts when it’s 8C (46F) outside.
He never actually meant it. Why does nobody get it? It’s a distraction. Stop fuelling it. This headline is exactly what Trump wants.
Anchoring is legitimately a negotiation technique where you start with an absurd demand to set the framing of the haggling.
Ie now the idea of expanded sea port security integration doesn’t seem like a crazy thing to exchange for elimination of tariffs.
But guess what, expanded sea port security integration would drastically reduce our ability to economically pivot in the face of future tariff threats. Ie if expanded sea port security integration means the USA can prevent us from using our sea ports.
Should probably include the periods in i.e.
I’m guessing you’re on a phone.
You don’t know that, and Project 2025 states that foreign affairs must be subject to national interests. The GOP is prioritizing access to strategic minerals as a long term goal. DT has stated the annex desire repeatedly and consistently.
At the least, the economic assault is not a distraction, and it is obviously the initial stage in an escalation. People are already affected, and pissed.
