@asklemmy@lemmy.world @asklemmy@lemmy.ml @ask Is it possible to create something like Meta ads purely based on floss platforms and products ?
I don’t think I want you to get an answer on this.
I’d be fine if the answer is “no”.
@AbouBenAdhem @HerbalGamer l’d much rather be happier to do something like Meta, since it’s already got a huge number of consumers.
And some of these users might embrace open source later on. I’m positive !!!
@HerbalGamer why so ??
Because I don’t want you to create anything like Meta ads.
@HerbalGamer But Meta ads are good at promoting a product/idea. But I always prefer floss and open source.
Cool but this isn’t really an ad-friendly platform in my experience
Meta ads work because Meta is a massively popular platform, and because it targets those ads relentlessly.
That’s… not possible with floss.
In other words, I’m struggling to understand what you are envisioning here.
@brucethemoose what is being made possible by Meta because it’s a corporate, can the same facilities be made possible through Open Source as a community ??? So that in future, lesser and lesser people have to depend on Meta as consumers ???
You are asking for advertising organized on a massive scale, backed by targeting algorithms/infrastructure that cost billions to develop and run.
If you develop that from FOSS, you get… Meta, all over again.
Beside, much of Meta’s advertising advantage is from popularity, inertia, being “the default” or whatever you want to call it, so I don’t think making a viable alternative is really possible unless that project becomes another Meta. The only way to get there is engagement by-any-means.
I am not trying to be combative or anything, but I’m struggling to understand what you’re envisioning here. In other words, what would FOSS even bring? Why make it FOSS at all? Is the idea simply for Meta to have a competitor that’s otherwise very similar?
@brucethemoose not Meta. I’m not a competitor for Meta. I want people to be free of Meta.
@brucethemoose not advertising on a massive scale. Suppose l have a product or a service. Meta ad is such a system that you can create a nice information piece for yourself, which you can share with others. I want something similar. But devoid of Meta !!
In Meta, you need a facebook account. But here, the platform which facilitates such ads itself creates the account. And the ad can be shared via URL. In other words, people don’t need to approach any ad agency to create their own ad.
…If you want Meta ads, why wouldn’t you just use Meta ads?
@brucethemoose l want my own ways, my own terms. And l would love people to develop things on their own.
It’s not because checks notes um it’s impossible and you can’t
Also yeah fuck right off with that
Ads are a form of psychological warfare; they aggress an individual with information they didn’t ask for or seek out with the intent to influence the way said individual thinks or get something out of them. Algorithmic targeting is even worse.
FLOSS is generally designed with end-user-agency-first philosophy, so to force another end user to have an experience they didn’t make a conscious choice to do is rather antithetical.
If you really believe in your idea and are committed to your ethics, word-of-mouth and honest networking are a better bet. I myself have bought games and sought out software from my readings here because they were based on a community consensus and not shoved in my face with straight-up classical corporate bullshit ads.
So TL;DR: very, very kindly chuck your ads into a shredder :)
@Broadfern that’s a very interesting perspective. Thank you this honest opinion ☺️☺️☺️
Of course! The progression of shared understanding is the basis of good-faith discussion, and that’s why I try to confront the idea/topic rather than the person whenever possible.
I’m willing to put some faith in the notion you’ve got some cool ideas/contributions that are worth sharing and being successful, without needing ads :) good luck!
@Broadfern l appreciate that word… Confrontation ☺️☺️ !! My brother assumes me the same way, that l’m confronting him, although l’m simply putting forth an alternative.
That being said, my brother definitely has some positive contributions to society, which ought to reach out to more people. What are the likely processes we could apply in order to do this ??
Anything is possible. Enough labor could reproduce any existing platform. Probability and ethics are a different question.
@roofuskit well yes !! Ethics is the point where l differ with Meta.
I think it’s more whether the system itself is ethical to even exist.
@roofuskit l wouldn’t have understood your statement. But someone just told me how exactly ads on GAFAM works😊😊
Yes. It is possible.
