I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

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    Other than the recent nonsense, this is why I cancelled Netflix and went back to pirating. Content leaves unexpectedly? Not on my Nas.

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      I’ve taken to de-DRMing any e-books I bought from Amazon for that reason.

      Also, the “You can only view this book on 3 devices” – yeah … fuck off.

      Calibre + DeDRM plugin + KFX plugin. Perfectly legal too, as long as you aren’t distributing them.

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      Except when I accidentally rm -rf the media folder but shhhhhhhh

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      Old school pirating or new school? Last time I remember pirates was like… Napster, Limewire, Kazaa… Then went to TPB before it got raided like 8 times… What’s the current? Is it still torrenting with proxies?

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        Oh, the high seas are very, very busy these days. Still a bit difficult for the non technical user, but there is buried treasure out there.

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        I just got my automated pirating machine set up!

        Here’s the wiki for the *arr apps!

        • Radarr for movies
        • Sonarr for TV shows
        • Prowlarr for index management
        • Optional Doplarr Discord Bot for requests

        Set up your profiles for Radarr/Sonarr to pick the quality of release you want (1080p, min/max file size, etc)

        Feed Radarr/Sonarr your qbittorrent info, nzbget & Usenet info

        They will automatically search the indexes (I use 1337x for torrents & nzbgeek for Usenet) for the files that fit your parameters, download it, and organize it.

        All you have to do is point Plex at the output folders and BAM, automated pirating.

        I even took it a step further and set up Doplarr - a Discord bot that handles requests. Now friends/family can ping the bot with their movie/show requests and it’ll sync up to Radarr/Sonarr and add their requests!

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        Word on the street is that reddit’s arr slash piracy has a pretty good guide to it in their wiki, including lists of generally trustworthy torrent sources. I of course don’t torrent, because I’m terrified of legal consequences–I just browse shady but technically legal websites to stream my anime

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        New skool is to use automation tools to grab and manage your media. You can still use torrenting but IMO using usenet is more reliable and doesn’t flag your ISP. I highly recommend anyone pirating to use 'arrs https://wiki.servarr.com/

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          Yes but with usenet you need to pay a monthly fee for a provider (generally) and a then the same for an index to find the content.

          Also the selection is a lot smaller. IMHO a better solution is using realdebrid if you’re okay with paying already.

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            Yeah I can’t argue with the usenet fees but all three of my index sites I’ve had no issues with their free version so long as you do go wild and download ten terabytes in a night. I’ve actually had better luck with the selection compared to torrenting, pretty much is there in all of the popular resolutions. The only thing I have finding is some of the obscure adult swim shows but I can’t find them on my private trackers either.

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        I’ve been pirating since Napster and you’re right, it’s changed a lot. These days, I usually just stream from third party sites. Takes less room on your PC and is faster than downloading a torrent. Dopebox is where it’s at for most stuff. 9anime if you like anime, it’s better than the paid alternatives like Crunchy roll or Funamation.

        If you want to stick to torrents I’ve found 1337x to be the best since TPB died.

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      Content leaving isn’t a problem. If they give up some things they have more money to get the rights to other content, and usually by the time it leaves I’ve either watched it or don’t want to. If it’s one of the rare things I want to watch several times, I can just buy it. But cracking down on password sharing is ridiculous. They’ve been functioning fine with people sharing passwords. I bet the current pricing accounts for password sharing. But now people in college can’t be on the family netflix? Pure greed.

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        Content leaving is totally a problem. I’ve lost track of the number of times my spouse and I say, “Oh hey, what about we finally watch xyz that’s been in our queue for ages? Yeah that seems like a good one for Friday pizza night! …oh, it’s vanished from our queue, hooray.”

        It’s not my full time job to keep tabs on what’s coming and going from the damn entertainment service that I hope to use in my ever dwindling reserves of free time. Especially when there’s alternative means available that are not too difficult to use.

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        This is incredibly annoying for series. Crunchyroll dropped Bleach, a series with over 350 episodes, when I was at episode ~100. A few years ago I started to manually keep track of the episodes I watched, since you lose your progress when they drop it (true for crunchyroll, prime and netflix)

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        You don’t actually need to be aware of it. Because you said you were aware of it, when you clicked Accept on the EULA, and on page 62 of the EULA it said they have the right to disable your printer remotely at any time and for any reason.

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          In decent nations, an EULA is considered an attempt by the seller to, after the purchase, change the terms of the implicit contract which was the sale, so it’s has no legal standing whatsoever.

          Absolutelly, the seller can set contract terms before the sale is done (and even then there are lots of limitations to avoid things like bait & switch, so it usualy has to be pretty clear and upfront and there are certain rights that a retail buyer simply cannot loose, even contractually), but never after the sale has been done.

          EULAs only have legal standing in a few places, including a few States in the US.

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            EULAs can very well be legal when you can read tgem before you purchase. Though German courts somewhat assume that nobody reads them, which becomes relevant if somebody puts something very unexpected in there. I would expect that they somehow disable only the ink, not the whole printer. Apparently thi also makes buying used printers a mess.

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          When ever I am forced to sign something (like some contract addendum for my job) I write that I don’t understand anything on that paper, or now I write it in email before e-signing.

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      It should be. But you agreed to it. Gotta print out that child support declaration in 20 minutes before your lawyer has to go to court? Hey fuck you consumer. Have a medical emergency and need to print something to save a patient? Fuck you consumer.

      Someone should sue them for everything they are. Because they are thieves of the highest order.

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        But you agreed to it.

        When does an agreement become null and void when the knowledge and time needed to understand the terms, and especially whether they even stand in the various jurisdictions, is simply unfeasible for a layperson to be expected to possess?

        In a similar vein, if an agreement requires a lawyer on call/retainer to interpret, what court besides a bought court would possibly uphold such a standard?

        Fwiw I’m not asking this with the expectation of you personally having the answers, but to further highlight the absurdity of many of these so-called agreements.

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          EULAs and TOSs have been tossed out in court before under the logic that you need to understand an agreement for it to be legally binding and that not reading the agreement inherently prevents you from understanding it.

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            In most of the World EULAs have no legal standing whatsoever because they’re an attempt by the seller to after the sale change the terms of the sale.

            It’s mainly in the US that those things aren’t instantly dismissed by the court as legally meaningless, but then again the US is way less consumer friendly that, for example, pretty much all of Europe.

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    Third voice for a Brother. I used to work an office supply store and they were by far the most reliable printers we sold.

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      I’ve had my Brother printer for several years and never had an issue. I don’t have the color one, just black and white. Would buy again.

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        I have one of the complicated brother ones that scans and prints, including double sides, in colour, and it’s a tank. Works fine in Linux too. Connected or through the network.

        It even does fax, which someone, somewhere probably finds useful.

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          Doctors offices and health insurance. It’s weird but technically fax machines are still considered “secure” communications for sending PHI. Sending it across the internet requires a lot of expensive hoops to jump through, or they could just buy a fax machine.

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            Funny thing is those faxes are going through internet anyway most of the time.

            Where I live fax are considered a legal proof contrary to emails.

            So for important contracts it is considered safer than mails.

            And honestly it kinda is since an email can totally end up never being recieved without any kind of error or warning. A fax you should know immediately that it wasn’t received on the other end.

            I still wish fax would disappear soon but an email is not a good replacement.

            Emails are now considered the defacto standard for businesses but they suck and are absolutely not reliable.

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      That was because of a misunderstanding. Brother started a subscription service and people assumed that meant you had to pay a monthly fee to use the printers like with HP. Instead, it’s a toner subscription like Dollar Shave Club or Amazon’s Subscribe and Save where they auto-send a new toner at your requested interval.

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        I also heard a rumor about something somewhere, that maybe something might have happened. But I’m not sure. /S

        I just installed a Brother printer for my dad, absolutely zero bullshit.

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          Yes, some of their firmware updates started breaking aftermarket toner cartridges and support said “that sucks” like it was very intentional. It seems constrained to a few of the MFC color models more than anything tho I’ve never had any issues other than bad wifi modules in the b&w home office lasers. Which if you’re using wifi on a printer that’s your own damn fault lol

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      I’ve had the same brother inkjet printer for 14 years now, and it still works great.

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    I just read an article the other day that said LG is about to start charging subscription fees for washing machines 🙄

    I will go old school and start washing my clothes against a rock in the river before I’ll pay a fucking subscription to use my own washing machine

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      That is crazy.

      Like a damn laundromat. So is LG gonna supply water and power too? Wtf are the charging for? The right to buy their product? Lmao. Fuck off.

      Go analog. Real analog. Sticks and stones baby.

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        The article said the subscription was for “software updates” which really seems like something they should provide for free anyway so you’re really just paying for the privilege to use their precious machine that you already paid for lol

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                Those pesky hackers turning off my washing machine when I’m trying to do laundry!

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                  Well, if your washing machine was connected to the internet you would also need security updates. Of course the only reason you’d connect your washing machine to the internet would be in order to get said security updates in the first place.

                  Great job creating a need by developing the fix for it in the first place.

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                  Potentially more serious than that. A poorly protected washing machine (or any other IOT device) can serve as an attack vector into your local network.

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            I think it’s for “smart” washing machines that you can control from your phone etc. So that’s likely what the “updates” would be related too…why you’d need to control your washing machine from afar is beyond me but some people love smart gadgets and will by anything that connects to their phone.

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              There are cases for it, eg programming a wash to occur when energy demand is low.

              In my opinion we should be pursuing technologies to do this that don’t require an internet connection. Even being able to program a schedule into the machine and it can detect if something is in there or not. That would be enough since energy usage follows a relatively consistent plot. These companies don’t give a shit about anything other than coming up with ways to make more money.

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                The cost of the laundry subscription is likely to vastly out cost the energy savings it may provide.

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                  Ya it’s a shit idea to go subscription in any situation. You really do not need any kind of ongoing updates/subscription unless the product was built around a subscription model. If it can done mechanically on basic programmable outlets then it can be coded the same way. I would be fine buying a laundry machine, asking my utilities provider what time to run it, and then programming that into the machine manually.

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              I hate the make everything a smart appliance trend… Grills, washers and dryers, dishwashers, coffee machines… WHY? No one needs this shit.

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          I hope this is rage bait because I can’t think of any reason a washing machine would ever need a software update. Is it like a smart machine? If so then just let me disable it

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          Fucking software updates for a washing machine? If my washing machine needs a software update, that should be a fucking recall. A washing machine should be a fully embedded system imo.

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            It’s updates for the cybersecurity that exists strictly only because it is connected to the internet which in turn is something that exists strictly only because there’s software updates.

            Megaman Battle Network was prophetic. Terrorist will flood your house using a phone.

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        A loan usually comes with full support and warranty service for the duration of the loan. With a subscription I bet you get to pay without receiving these benefits in return.

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    Every time I think printers can’t get any worse, they get worse.

    What’s next? are they going to have to scan your anus to confirm that it’s actually you printing things? I shouldn’t give them ideas.

    By the way, I’m sure there’s a way to get into the firmware of the printer to disconnect it from that centralized service.

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    What the fuck is wrong with people? It’s been common knowledge that hp is trash for decades now. The whole idea of capitalism is that the bad products fail when customers go to the competitors who do a better job, but hp is not a monopoly and there are better competitors that exist, but people keep in buying HP because frankly, they are too fucking stupid. Capitalism is a lie because consumers are too stupid to pick the best products.

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      My hp laptop works fine, but yeah hp printers are terrible. They are very slow to print, and the ink was quite expensive.

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        I don’t have any experience with their laptops, but they pissed me off so much with their printers that I’ve written off their entire brand. Even if their other stuff is really good, I’m fine with writing them off entirely just out of spite.

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          Honestly the laptops are pretty good in my opinion. My HP pavillion laptop had space to upgrade RAM, install new hard drives and plenty of ports. But I still agree with you that the printers are complete rubbish.

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      The simplest proof that the Homo Economicus human model used in the mathematical models that justify Free Market Theory is complete total bollocks is that the Marketing that has no mention of the qualities of the product whatsoever, actually works (perfumes and cars are prime examples but there are tons of examples for consumer tech also).

      That and some people from Behavioural Economics (the only part of that domain which is actually scientific) have shown with various experiments that there are lots of ways in which people are not rational in their economic decisions, hence not at all the “pure personal upside maximizer” which is the Homo Economicus model.

      People sticking to a well-known name such as HP is probably down to the effect of familiarity (at times known as “name recognition”) - maybe one of the biggest irrationalities in human economic behaviour and one of the pathways most commonly exploited by marketing.

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        And for example, the products that sell the most on amazon are not the best products, they’re the ones that give amazon the biggest advertising budget.

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      There was a time when Hewlet Packard products were the best, them it became HP and…

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      If you only print something once every couple of months I only need a cheap printer and dont care if the ink is a bit more expensice since I never use it. Though I admit my blood pressure always rises trying to get the thing to work

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        I bought a brother laser printer and have had no issues with it, and I’m still using the original toner years and hundreds of pages later. They’re more expensive up front but they’re not that much more expensive. The entry level brother laser printer is only ~$100, and compared to HP, by the time you buy 2 ink cartridges you’ll have lost any savings you made on the printer itself. It is absolutely not cheaper to buy HP. If I’d have done that I’d have spent more on HP ink alone by now than the entire brother printer which I haven’t had to replace the toner for even though the one it’s sold with isn’t totally full.

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        Ink jets burn ink even if you dont print anything, with their periodic “cleaning cycles”. That or their nozzles jam if you dont print often enough. They can make really high quality prints, but I’d never buy one again. Lasers can sit for months and they still pop out perfect prints every time.

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      The average person is not invested into printers and just needs a printer to occasionally print something. It’s not something they know a lot about and in the store they see a cheap printer from a well known brand that gave them good experiences with other products. It makes total sense for them to buy it. I’m sure they will know what products/brands to avoid in other areas that are unknown to you.

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      Most people just buy a printer, they’re not doing research on the subject. And if they’re not using computers day to day, or for work, they’re even less likely to know what shit hp is up to.

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    HP printers are now pure scamming dog shit. The HP printer division must have been taken over by criminals.

    The first laser printer I worked with was a HP 4L and it was fantastic. So fantastic, that we implemented it company wide, and they were close to immortal. The last of them got killed off when we got follow-me print.

    If you want a decent laser printer today, stay clear of HP and get a Brother instead.

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    Printer company are one of the biggest legalized scammer we currently have. Out water and some ink they make huge amount of Profit.

    They are the Definition of making Gold out of shit.

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    I’ve been saying for about 15 years now – you’d have to be a masochist to buy HP printers. Why do people keep enabling these shits? You just encourage them to be even worse. Don’t stand for even a little of their bullshit and they will change or die. You make a noose for your own neck.

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      This is true if everybody do it, otherwise nothing will change. As we know there are too many people on the planet and too many idiots among them that will buy these products and so company can’t get away with everything nowadays. Look at Facebook, Twitter, reddit, hp. In my country there’s a huge food company that put fucking poison in baby formulas, and killed some of them (and others with lifetime growth issues) and guess what? People stopped buying from them for 2 years, they pulled through and now they are one of the top companies.

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      People are still buying HP printers because there are no alternatives. In my experience Epson is the worst. The are all the same, and we have no alternative other than letting them fuck with us. And they know it.

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        Brother has been amazing. Good products, manufacturer support for all operating systems, no subscription bullshit.

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        No, I think that’s blatantly wrong.

        Idk if Brother is the best no-bullshit alternative, but it’s definitely supposed to be a no-bullshit alternative.

        Even if we had no other alternative, we could crowd-fund one.

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          I bought a expensive Ecotank because I loved the Idea of not having cartridges. To fill the tanks you still need cartridges though, so you still have the waste. No Eco in sight.

          The paper in- and outlets were very narrow, what made refilling paper a hassle.

          The software was very clunky, some cleaning programs did not work. After a year the prints became quite poor.

          Another year later this print heads were clogged, no matter how much alcohol we poured on it. I threw the whole thing away. Never again.

          The HP I hade a couple years ago was much better.

          I am not saying this company is better than the other, I am convinced they are all the same. Some products are better, some are worse.

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      Funny thing is, I know all of this and their bad behavior. I needed a new printer, ordered it but they didn’t have it in stock so they asked me to change my order and offered HP with extra toner and all that. Half asleep I didn’t even think twice. It was good price, extra toner.

      From day one, nothing but problems until I broke the spell last year and got a Brother printer. Night and day in terms of quality and obedience.

      I assume that’s the case with many people. Cheap printer available right now or some local deals make it even better looking. Someone who doesn’t know better like mom or pop buys it and there it is, pain. Then they realize what they have done and perhaps sell the damn thing, so pain jumps on someone else who just needed a cheap printer.

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    “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy”

    I guess this sentence is already became the reality in some countries if you can’t even buy a god damn printer without it locking you out.

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    My mom’s Amazon Halo that counts steps just shut off because they ended the service. I do not trust anything that requires live service at this point.

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    A shame to hear how far HP has fallen. Back in the day they had some solid, workhorse laser printers that delivered for years with no issues and pretty good toner efficiency. Based on what I’ve read here, I’m not likely to buy another.